What would you ban and why? (Definitely tearoom!)

[Martin KyteParticipant @martinkyte99762]

How would you classify chicken muscle cells produced by tissue culture in vitro rather than by chickens in vivo?

regards Martin

[roy entwistleParticipant @royentwistle24699]

If vegetables screamed when you put them in boiling water, no one would eat them either.

Roy

[Martin KyteParticipant @martinkyte99762]

Posted by roy entwistle on 20/07/2022 12:00:20:

If vegetables screamed when you put them in boiling water, no one would eat them either.

Roy

So what would you eat. I'm sure when hunger gets great enough people will eat anything including in extremis other people.

regards Martin

[HOWARDTParticipant @howardt]

We can all accept that both meat and vegetables can be eaten cooked or not, it is a matter of taste and upbringing. Before BSE some of us from the past ate offal in one form or another, OK some of us still do when we can source it for example. The argument can be about processing costs, fuel costs, man hours, factory costs etc. A simple vegetable produced in country is far less cost to get to a household than a processed food. Meat is a processed food in that it has to be harvested from an animal, that we accept. But why say you are being green by eating you veggie burger that has been heavily processed rather than a slab of meat.

[Mike PooleParticipant @mikepoole82104]

Considering that ultra processed food is widely regarded as bad for us then the concoctions that are created to imitate animal products would fall into the bad for you category. Cooking is necessary I feel for many vegetables and although I enjoy a rare steak I find it a bit of a problem when a good vet could probably get it going again. I am not in any rush to try some Asian delicacy like ants and other insects nor do song birds appeal even if the French are keen. I do feel that a Vegan diet needs care to ensure it provides everything we require to be healthy and if vitamin supplements are required then maybe more thought is required. Perhaps  the human dietary needs are meant to be satisfied with some meat content and deviation needs close attention to ensure good health.

Mike

Edited By Mike Poole on 20/07/2022 14:10:09

[vic neweyParticipant @vicnewey60017]

I'd ban so called music in shops so I can walk around in peace without forced caterwauling in my ears everywhere. When they first started piped music years ago it was always instrumental, never singing like now.

I'd ban people who can't park a car unless it's right next to another one even in an empty car park. You park your spanking new car over the far side of Tesco's carpark and when you come out some cretin has parked right next to it and dinged your door. We see it all the time at supermarkets, a whole empty row next to one full of parked cars with just one empty space. Someone with then squeeze in and find they can hardly open the door to get out.

[derek hall 1Participant @derekhall1]

My wife has already banned me from watching those programs on TV with cameras following the police catching criminals, only for any punishment to be negligible.

She got fed up with me shouting at the telly…

Regards

Derek

[Harry WilkesParticipant @harrywilkes58467]

Posted by lee webster on 20/07/2022 08:39:15:

I would ban music in shops. Unless it's the Sally Ann playing carols at Christmas.

I would ban smoking in a public place, anywhere public. If you want to smoke do it in a cupboard at home.

I would ban highly paid executives. There should be a pay cap on these people. If you own a company you have created, then you deserve good pay, but the others in the company don't.

I would ban people who moan.

[JAParticipant @ja]

Posted by vic newey on 20/07/2022 14:57:18:

I'd ban people who can't park a car unless it's right next to another one even in an empty car park. You park your spanking new car over the far side of Tesco's carpark and when you come out some cretin has parked right next to it and dinged your door. We see it all the time at supermarkets, a whole empty row next to one full of parked cars with just one empty space. Someone with then squeeze in and find they can hardly open the door to get out.

 

I think a university has researched the apparent need to park next to the only car in a car park.

I have not followed this thread back to its start in 2016 but I am sure it has already been stated – I would ban the Tea Room. Its diversions stops me from doing useful work.

JA

Edited By JA on 20/07/2022 16:00:20

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Posted by Derek Lane on 20/07/2022 11:07:25:

Posted by SillyOldDuffer on 20/07/2022 10:52:44:

Posted by Derek Lane on 20/07/2022 10:16:38:

Posted by HOWARDT on 20/07/2022 08:24:02:

How about banning turning vegetables into so called meat alternatives. In my mind you are either a meat eater or not. Cannot see the sense in using energy to convert a vegetable into anything else when it is perfectly edible as is.

I have to agree to that why make it taste like meat if those that eat it want something to taste like meat then eat meat. Why call it meatless chicken as it is not chicken if it has no meat in it to me it is false advertising. Most of them just seemed confused.

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Many people enjoy the taste and texture of meat but balk at the pain, suffering and waste it causes. So I don't have a problem anyone preferring with meat alternatives.

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Dave

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Call it what you like but do not refer to it as meat of any kind. Just call it a vegetable patty or something similar.

PS I will still sit and enjoy my medium rare steak and I am sure you will enjoy you vegieburger

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Most snakes taste of chicken, just as humans taste of pork, yum yum!

Would iit be OK if Vegetable Patty was described as 'Chicken Flavoured '? If not, we've got a problem with Potato Crisps! Derek and Howard want to ban these:

Not fond of veggie burgers myself. Prefer my steak rare!

Dave

[lee websterParticipant @leewebster72680]

When I became a vegi 30 odd years ago I had to decide what constituted meat. Some said that an egg isn't meat, I disagree. I fell back on an old game from radio, I think, "animal, mineral or vegetable". I won't eat anything from the first catagory, but I will drink milk. I don't think I can eat anything from the second catagory, so that leaves vegetable (and fruit). I also gave up looking for meat alternatives. You'll never find one, enjoy the veg for what it is.

Lee

[Tim StevensParticipant @timstevens64731]

How about banning surveys unless it can be shown that action is likely to follow?

Tim

[mark costello 1Participant @markcostello1]

Posted by Martin Kyte on 20/07/2022 11:53:48:

How would you classify chicken muscle cells produced by tissue culture in vitro rather than by chickens in vivo?

regards Martin

Inedible.

[HOWARDTParticipant @howardt]

Having been to the old Walkers crisp factories many years ago and watched the potato to crisp cycle I have no complaints. The flavouring has never been any where near an animal, they are all entirely artificial. Of course things may have changed over the years but I doubt it. Artificial compounds are used in a lot of things these days particularly covering those nasty tasting vegetables mentioned previously.

[Mike PooleParticipant @mikepoole82104]

Perversely, at one time cheese and onion crisps were unsuitable for vegetarians and beef were, I don’t know if that is still true.

Mike

[GeorgineerParticipant @georgineer]

Posted by Steviegtr on 20/07/2022 02:45:55:

Posted by Georgineer on 20/07/2022 00:35:36:

Posted by MW on 21/08/2016 10:46:23:

"If the safety nazis really want to save serious lives, all they need to do is make eating two slices of high-fibre wholegrain toast a day mandatory."

We're gonna have to rename the tea room to the toast room to encourage this activity and give people something to amuse themselves with whilst they eat their toast.

Michael W

Ban toast. It contains cancer-causing dioxins!

George

Only if it is burned

Steve.

Is there any other sort?

I have to confess that I didn't realise that I was answering an ancient thread. I would also ban the exhumation of hundred-year-old threads for the sole purpose of raising contentious points about political issues in another country.

George

[Mick B1Participant @mickb1]

Posted by Mike Poole on 20/07/2022 18:29:26:

Perversely, at one time cheese and onion crisps were unsuitable for vegetarians and beef were, I don’t know if that is still true.

Mike

I'd just be happy if you could get decent potato-flavoured crips not covered in salt and bizarre – plus almost always completely unconvincing – 'flavours'.

Tyrell's used to do 'Naked' unsalted crisps but I haven't seen them for years – I'm guessing there were objections to the packet print. M&S and Kettle Chips also used to do unsalted variants but they seem to've long disappeared.

That just leaves Walkers (ex Smiths) Salt & Shake, which are thin and insubstantial.

I'd ban flavoured and salted crisps for a while until people realise how much nicer *really* plain crisps can be…

Edited By Mick B1 on 20/07/2022 19:03:51

[pgk pgkParticipant @pgkpgk17461]

Posted by lee webster on 20/07/2022 17:25:49:

When I became a vegi 30 odd years ago I had to decide what constituted meat. Some said that an egg isn't meat, I disagree. I fell back on an old game from radio, I think, "animal, mineral or vegetable". I won't eat anything from the first catagory, but I will drink milk. I don't think I can eat anything from the second catagory, so that leaves vegetable (and fruit). I also gave up looking for meat alternatives. You'll never find one, enjoy the veg for what it is.

Lee

Just to play devil's advocate here. Milk depends on regular pregnancies and the progeny will either end up eaten or become a new milk and calf machine. As for minerals you can process some directly and you are highly dependant otherwise on getting them in your veggies. Salt is the most common mineral people take in unhealthy excess…

[Ady1Participant @ady1]

Posted by HOWARDT on 20/07/2022 17:43:04:

Having been to the old Walkers crisp factories many years ago and watched the potato to crisp cycle I have no complaints. The flavouring has never been any where near an animal, they are all entirely artificial. Of course things may have changed over the years but I doubt it. Artificial compounds are used in a lot of things these days particularly covering those nasty tasting vegetables mentioned previously.

McDonalds have brought out a veggie burger which I am going to try the next time we're on a trip

If ANYONE can make one of those things remotely palatable it will be McDonalds

Also recommend their white coffee, you don't even need sugar in it

[Ady1Participant @ady1]

As far as banning is concerned I would ban words like butcher in connection with anything that does not contain meat

[BazyleParticipant @bazyle]

There was a radio piece the other day about a vegan only restaurant chain going back to mixed owing to lack of business. Since if a group of people go to a 'regular' restaurant someone would nowadays make a fuss if there was absolutely no vegetarian options it seemed a bit odd that they would think the converse was going to work.

[HOWARDTParticipant @howardt]

Seem to remember back until the mid sixties when crisps came only in plain or cheese and onion that you could get both unsalted and salted from Walkers. Yes Smiths crisps had the little blue twisted paper bag of salt. In Leicester we had both Walkers and Smiths back then.

[BufferParticipant @buffer]

I would ban people from saying "do you know what I mean" at the end of every sentence or when they stop for a breath because it's very annoying and I am fed up of always answering them with 'yes I do know what you mean" I would also ban people from saying "like" all the time. Eg. I want to go to like America.

[Bob Unitt 1Participant @bobunitt1]

People (particularly politicians and academics) who start every response to any question on the news with"So, blah".

[GeorgineerParticipant @georgineer]

Posted by HOWARDT on 21/07/2022 13:24:52:

Seem to remember back until the mid sixties when crisps came only in plain or cheese and onion that you could get both unsalted and salted from Walkers. Yes Smiths crisps had the little blue twisted paper bag of salt. In Leicester we had both Walkers and Smiths back then.

Before the war a friend of my Mum's worked in the Smith's factory at Portchester and her job was to wrap up the salt in those little screws of blue paper. She got paid some tiny amount, like 2d a hundred. The supervisor used to sample each batch for tightness, and if one leaked salt the whole batch was rejected and she didn't get paid for it. Eventually the work was done by machine.

I still miss the delicious smell when I drive past the site. Much nicer than the sickly smell of chocolate when we lived downwind of Cadbury's factory on the Wirral.

George

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