What would you ban and why? (Definitely tearoom!)

[Russ BParticipant @russb]

Religion

[BazyleParticipant @bazyle]

Posted by fizzy on 22/08/2016 21:25:38:

And lets ban all Carrots – I hate the ruddy things and now every ready meal producer is loading up on them because theyre cheap and bulky. Even my local chinese take-away is in on the game. Yuk!! Is anyone looking for a Group Technical Manager…just asking?

Hear Hear My college canteen used to love serving carrot stew with carrot as a veg. Only fodder swedes are cheaper.

And can we ban motorbikes and light aircraft that don't have proper silencers ie they should be inaudible at 100ft.

WRT music on films. You are right Neil the technology is there. How do we start a campaign to get it used?

[MikeParticipant @mike89748]

Fizzy & Bazyle: Did you know that in the Welsh language carrots are called morons? Just about sums up the evil things… And how people can crunch the things raw is just beyond me…

[Michael GilliganParticipant @michaelgilligan61133]

Posted by Mike on 23/08/2016 08:01:09:

… but the real cause of my deafness was a stroke. Audiologists hinted that this was impossible, yet when I helped a leading medical charity research stroke-induced deafness, it was easy to find four examples among stroke survivors in my local community. …

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Mike,

Apologies if I missed it, but, I don't think you mentioned how long ago this was.

I think that over-specialisation in the late 20th Century was to blame for the Audiologists' opinion … Knowledge was building exxponentially; but confined to 'bubbles' of expertise. … Thankfully; recent years have brought both the technoliogy and the will to manage & cross-refer research data, and a more holistic approach is becoming noticeable.

It is now quite easy to find explanation of what you experienced. **LINK**

http://www.medscape.com/viewarticle/714338

MichaelG.

[Michael GilliganParticipant @michaelgilligan61133]

Posted by Bazyle on 23/08/2016 08:55:38:

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How do we start a campaign to get it used?

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**LINK**

https://petition.parliament.uk/petitions/new

[MikeParticipant @mike89748]

Michael: Thanks for the link – I'll study it later as I'm just off to a meeting of the stroke charity. As far as the time scale is concerned, my stroke was in 2012, and our research into stroke-induced deafness was about 18 months ago. Our objective was to put together a short course on the subject for our volunteers.

[AjohnwParticipant @ajohnw51620]

Posted by duncan webster on 22/08/2016 19:30:16:

Posted by Neil Wyatt on 22/08/2016 17:28:24:

Posted by Nicholas Wheeler 1 on 22/08/2016 12:28:58:

Posted by Ajohnw on 22/08/2016 10:00:33:

Something that should be banned – large HGV's running on their speed limiter and overtaking others doing the same on dual carriage ways and motor ways. We would all get there a lot quicker if they stopped this and use less fuel. It seems that they should drive to a 10 second rule – if overtaking takes longer don't.

Make every one else overtake in 10 secs or lees too.

John

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You should try driving a vehicle with a 90kmh limiter. Anyone who doesn't drive on it whenever possible is going to struggle to get their work done. Many of them are on such tight schedules they won't have enough hours to get home at the end of the day. Slowing them down any further on dual carriageways etc is going to create an even bigger speed differential between them and 'Us' and that's already the biggest cause of crashes. Spreading them out would make already overcrowded roads even worse – this would be the biggest improvement of driverless vehicles, they ought to be able to run virtually touching at all times. But at that point you might as well just couple them all together, and make all the passenger compartments public. We would need to come up with a name for such vehicles, as 'train' is already taken.

Eddie Stobart drivers are banned from overtaking other vehicles on their 'limit'.

Neil

Germany seems to manage with HGVs limited to the inside lane only on autobahns. Why can't we do the same unless whatever is in the inside lane is doing less than say 40 mph. And don't tell me this would prevent drivers fulfilling their quota, managers who knowingly set impossible targets should be prosecuted if the driver falls foul of excess hours.

I have driven one actually and often when on the continent even uk hgv drivers stick to the 10 sec limit because it is policed. There is a stretch of the M42 where HGV's are banned from overtaking. It made a huge difference to traffic flow but a few take no notice.

The usual reaction is oh they would need a stop watch. Afraid that's not so. It's just a pretty obvious difference in relative speed and as lots these days have cruise control just a matter of adjusting it.

No time to deliver? – hgv's are all on tachographs and have to take periodic rests no matter what the fleet owner thinks about delivery times.

There has been talk for a long time about moving speed limiters down the weight range. It will probably happen at some point and there will be even more chaos if this sort of problem isn't thought through.

Some people are inclined to think that hgv's are any commercial goods vehicle. It's possible to drive a pretty large rigid truck on a car license that even is likely to have air brakes. Not an HGV. From memory there are 2 classes and a separate driving test for each. Also yet another for coaches above a certain size. Taxation classes cause people to confuse the weight ranges of various vehicles – the licenses are much clearer. There is also another class of license. ADR – hazardous goods via a HGV.

I'd also ban people from travelling on motorways below the HGV's speed limits also do away with the slight differences that HGV's have to use according to class but that may be out of date now. it is or maybe was 3mph just to ensure overtaking took a long time.

John

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Edited By Ajohnw on 23/08/2016 10:06:34

[Neil WyattModerator @neilwyatt]

Posted by Ajohnw on 23/08/2016 09:57:13:

Some people are inclined to think that hgv's are any commercial goods vehicle. It's possible to drive a pretty large rigid truck on a car license that even is likely to have air brakes.

Most of us here can legally drive a 7.5 tonne vehicle on a car licence, but not the younger generations.

Neil

[AjohnwParticipant @ajohnw51620]

It's interesting to talk to HGV drivers. Some think that the biggest problem they have on long trips on many roads is that they have nothing to do which can cause attention to drift. Even falling asleep which is probably why tachographs were introduced but also to check speeds.

Others hate the thought of overtaking limitations because they would have to think.

That's sad for the young Neil and I doubt if there is any real reason for changing the rules. That sort of vehicle just needs the driver to be made aware of a few slight differences. Artic's are an entirely different kettle of fish but actually in some ways are easier to drive than a car with a caravan on the back.

John

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[KWILParticipant @kwil]

If we had a Motorway crawler lane on all appropriate inclines, we could ban overtaking everywhere else?

[MWParticipant @mw27036]

Posted by Neil Wyatt on 23/08/2016 10:08:48:

Posted by Ajohnw on 23/08/2016 09:57:13:

Some people are inclined to think that hgv's are any commercial goods vehicle. It's possible to drive a pretty large rigid truck on a car license that even is likely to have air brakes.

Most of us here can legally drive a 7.5 tonne vehicle on a car licence, but not the younger generations.

Neil

From what is known as a "grandfather clause". A law or privilege that can only historically apply to a certain group of people, but not anyone later than that, who is subject to the same process. A way of changing things, but keeping all parties happy.

I'm pretty sure if the law involved removing the right to drive HGV's from incumbent license holders, it would've been almost unanimously thrown out. Besides which, having already "proven" their ability in the license, this would've been difficult to justify. It could also have been disruptive to the incomes of people who drive or use these vehicles to make a living. 

Michael W

Edited By Michael Walters on 23/08/2016 10:53:14

[Bodger BrianParticipant @bodgerbrian]

Posted by V8Eng on 21/08/2016 20:55:55:

Ban the word "like" from being spoken unless it is in the correct context.

Along with the phrase "my bad". I always want to reply "your bad what?"….

Brian

[MWParticipant @mw27036]

Posted by Bodger Brian on 23/08/2016 13:29:23:

Posted by V8Eng on 21/08/2016 20:55:55:

Ban the word "like" from being spoken unless it is in the correct context.

Along with the phrase "my bad". I always want to reply "your bad what?"….

Brian

And problems being described as "issues" They arent magazines!

Michael W

[Nick WheelerParticipant @nickwheeler]

Posted by Michael Walters on 23/08/2016 13:38:22:

Posted by Bodger Brian on 23/08/2016 13:29:23:

Posted by V8Eng on 21/08/2016 20:55:55:

Ban the word "like" from being spoken unless it is in the correct context.

Along with the phrase "my bad". I always want to reply "your bad what?"….

Brian

And problems being described as "issues" They aren't magazines!

The redundant insertion of "solutions" is one that always annoys me. Two I've recently seen on vans: Maintenance and repair solutions to all makes of tailifts and Logistics solutions. Deleting solutions from both of those makes no difference to the meaning.

Some years ago a customer pointed out a number of particularly puerile slogans on passing lorries, and now I can't help noticing them.Occasionally there are some that are worth reading, Poultry in motion on a Sussex Turkey Farm truck was good

[MikeParticipant @mike89748]

….and people who use "invite" as a noun. Invite is a verb. The noun is "invitation".

[Gordon AParticipant @gordona]

When someone is asked how they are, why to they reply "I'm good thanks"? Does anyone ever say that they are bad?

Or when someone is "sat" in a chair!

Also ban ambulance chasing.

Gordon.

[Richard MarksParticipant @richardmarks80868]

If anyone enquires as to how I am the reply is I'm still alive, I lost my hearing due to a doctor not taking any notice of an infection in my right ear, looks a bit angry he said and gave me some pills but eventually deafness set in and I had to go and be fitted with an NHS hearing aid, after complaining a few times about the fact that it did not seem to work properly it just farted and popped therefore I gave up on it and just get on without it which is really annoying as I love music.

[MikeParticipant @mike89748]

Michael Gilligan, you have a PM from me. Thanks again for the link – Mike

[Sam Longley 1Participant @samlongley1]

 

SHOULD WE TYPE ALL REPLIES IN UPPER CASE FOR ALL THE POOR OLD DUFFERS WITH HEARING PROBLEMS?

 

 

 

I will get my coat

Edited By Sam Longley 1 on 23/08/2016 15:44:45

[SillyOldDufferModerator @sillyoldduffer]

I'd ban blanket bans. Quite often the circumstances make a difference and for many operations a scalpel is more appropriate than a sledgehammer. For example, based on motor accident statistics:

• All drivers under 25 should be banned from overtaking.
• All drivers between 25 and 65 should be banned from drinking alcohol.
• All drivers over 65 should be banned from turning right or left whilst driving an old banger.

Obviously the last ban wouldn't apply to any user of this forum, especially not me!

Cheers,

Dave

[John Stevenson 1Participant @johnstevenson1]

How about banning whingeing bastards ?

[MikeParticipant @mike89748]

Sam, I was taught by my former employer's IT chief that writing e-mails in upper case was rude. Mind you, as a deaf old git myself, 72 point lower case might be handy…

[MWParticipant @mw27036]

Posted by John Stevenson on 23/08/2016 15:46:07:
How about banning whingeing bastards ?

But you'd be lost without us!

Michael W

[Clive IndiaParticipant @cliveindia]

Pet hate – those, when in a shop, who say "could I get"

If I ran a fish shop and someone said "Could I get fish and chips" I would say "No, I'll get them for you"

[Neil WyattModerator @neilwyatt]

People who complain about 'Americanisms' that are actually long-standing English expressions we have replaced with neologisms and lazy shorthand.

That said, I would also ban 'I could care less'.

Neil

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