What web browser

[Enough!Participant @enough]

XP Users of Firefox might want to be aware of this

and this

(i.e. support is being dropped this year).

Edited By Bandersnatch on 23/01/2017 23:13:47

[Ady1Participant @ady1]

I've been reading about these security armageddon things for decades and don't bother about them, never used a virus thingy, only ever used zonealarm pro firewall.

Did get something annoying years ago from an advert but that roll-back to a couple of days before option in XP fixed it

I think if you visit porno sites, or you're running a multi-pooter business, or an internet website, these things matter and are a definite risk, but for me as someone who visits about 10 basic sites they've never been an issue

The scaremongering industry is very profitable, always has been

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edit: keeping a low profile nowadays is the way to go IMO.

Everything you do is recorded at the ISP level and new employers want to see your internet profile/s nowadays so they can look at your life in detail, so a virtually non-existent internet profile simplifies things.

Edited By Ady1 on 24/01/2017 01:26:41

[Geoff TheasbyParticipant @geofftheasby]

After having endless problems with XP, corrupting files, esp. photographs, I moved completely over to Ubuntu (Linux) which uses Firefox, but retaining Gmail for correspondence. It works beautifully! Never had a problem in about 5 years of use. The Ubuntu package is free, and contains spreadsheets, word processing, etc, plus numerous other software to be downloaded (LMMS for a MIDI synthesiser, for instance) I am not a computer geek, it's as easy to obtain as Windows, very similar in appearance & use, and the various programs are Windows compatible, ie can read and be read by.

Geoff

[Clive IndiaParticipant @cliveindia]

Firefox and Windows 10.

I do have concerns about what it seems to be learning about me.

I have tried to prevent it giving me suggestions all the time, with minimal success. e.g. learns in flleebay and others what I might want.

If anyone knows of a browser which does not do it or how to turn it all off it would help – even if I had to pay for it!

[Russell EberhardtParticipant @russelleberhardt48058]

Posted by Clive India on 24/01/2017 09:28:58:

Firefox and Windows 10.

I do have concerns about what it seems to be learning about me.

I have tried to prevent it giving me suggestions all the time, with minimal success. e.g. learns in flleebay and others what I might want.

If anyone knows of a browser which does not do it or how to turn it all off it would help – even if I had to pay for it!

Have a look at Firefox tracking. Google is one of the biggest culprits, try using Duck duck go as your search engine.

Russell

[Michael GilliganParticipant @michaelgilligan61133]

Posted by Clive India on 24/01/2017 09:28:58:

Firefox and Windows 10.

I do have concerns about what it seems to be learning about me.

…

If anyone knows of a browser which does not do it or how to turn it all off it would help – even if I had to pay for it!

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Clive,

In view of Harry's comment, I am a little wary of suggesting this, but … have a look at Safari.

MichaelG.

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Edit: … Sorry, please ignore  that ^^^ 

https://discussions.apple.com/thread/7358559?language=en

 

Edited By Michael Gilligan on 24/01/2017 09:51:14

[Ketan SwaliParticipant @ketanswali79440]

Posted by Harry Wilkes on 23/01/2017 21:39:29:

Thanks for all the replies everyone it looks like Firefox is just out in front, Ketan I'm surprised to see Safari so high on your list as an Apple user I can't stand it !

Thanks again

H

Hi Harry,

Safari may be high only because it probably came supplied with the machine the user is using…which is probably an Apple something. When I have issues browsing a site with Safari on an Apple something, I switch over to Firefox. This site is a very good example. If I want to make a post on this site using Safari, I have to change the way I deal with it. I think that is personal choice.

For our business, it becomes more critical. ARC uses Firefox, Chrome, IE, in that order, depending on what site we are connecting to, for ideal functionality. When things go wrong/updates, especially Java updates, Royal Mail prefers IE, where as DPD loves Firefox and Chrome, and when Virgin broadband fails, to make any changes, its best for us to use Chrome or IE. Otherwise we would fail to get anything done.

I dont think that there is any one solution to fix all – unfortunately.

Ketan at ARC.

[Roger Provins 2Participant @rogerprovins2]

Posted by Clive India on 24/01/2017 09:28:58:

Firefox and Windows 10.

I do have concerns about what it seems to be learning about me.

I have tried to prevent it giving me suggestions all the time, with minimal success. e.g. learns in flleebay and others what I might want.

If anyone knows of a browser which does not do it or how to turn it all off it would help – even if I had to pay for it!

Supposedly TOR is the most secure of all browsers

Roger

[Philip DParticipant @philipd]

Clive India and others, can I suggest a free program called Ghostery which I use in Firefox, It works a dream and is easy to use if the odd website doesn't function you just pause it and reload the page.

Philip

[MWParticipant @mw27036]

It is possible to limit the information windows 10 can collect from you (as well as speed up the computer slightly) by using free software.

This is all possible through the basic windows 10, but the software makes it far easier to manage without having to trudge through all the interface of settings and menus.

Michael W

[Ady1Participant @ady1]

Posted by Clive India on 24/01/2017 09:28:58:

Firefox and Windows 10.

I do have concerns about what it seems to be learning about me.

I have tried to prevent it giving me suggestions all the time, with minimal success. e.g. learns in flleebay and others what I might want.

If anyone knows of a browser which does not do it or how to turn it all off it would help – even if I had to pay for it!

I have ticked "never remember history" in firefox Privacy options and all those eye raising accurate internet adverts stopped for me because all your cache is wiped when you exit the program

I haven't ticked "remember logins" but they do still work for me, you simply click on the writebox and your username pops up as an option

[Peter G. ShawParticipant @peterg-shaw75338]

Firefox with all options selected to give as much privacy as possible. Plus I use Ghostery. All on Linux Mint. Also, when I was XP, I eventually, and long before XP died, changed over to Firefox.

I do not remember logins, passwords, names or indeed anything.

Peter G. Shaw

[steamdaveParticipant @steamdave]

I am I the only one using Pale Moon?
Used to be an Opera user, but PM with Duck Duck Go is my preferred weapon of choice.

Dave
The Emerald Isle

[An OtherParticipant @another21905]

Re the comment on Tor: I believe Tor actually 'bounces' your internet conection through multiple servers, making it very difficult to track your connections. (sorry if that is confusing – I'm trying to keep it simple). When I tried a Tor installation on my computer, it used a version of Firefox which is apparently 'tuned' to remove many of the eavesdropping vulnerabilities which all browsers have to some extent.

A penalty of the 'bounced' connections seems to be that it can be very slow to download stuff (my experience).

There is also a self-contained OS/Browser 'system' called 'Tails' which uses Tor and is highly secure, which can operate from a USB stick – you don't have to install it on your computer.

As someone has noted, Google is notorious for tracking you (following what you are doing online) – then using the information to target advertisements and other nasties. DuckDuckGo claims not to track its users, and is similar in many ways to Google from a users point of view.

Sorry to go off subject a bit – -just thought it might interest someone.

edit to Tails details

Edited By An Other on 24/01/2017 19:17:17

[Michael GilliganParticipant @michaelgilligan61133]

All useful stuff, An Other … Thanks

MichaelG.

[Harry WilkesParticipant @harrywilkes58467]

Posted by Michael Gilligan on 23/01/2017 21:52:43:

Posted by Harry Wilkes on 23/01/2017 21:39:29:

… Ketan I'm surprised to see Safari so high on your list as an Apple user I can't stand it !

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Harry,

I don't want to labour it; but may I ask what you find so objectionable about Safari ?

… Perhaps I've 'got used to it' but it seems innocuous enough.

MichaelG.

Michael to be fair I can't really put my finger on it, maybe unlike you I haven't gotten use to it, I only use it on my phone but maybe if it was on my laptop I might think differently.

H

[Michael GilliganParticipant @michaelgilligan61133]

Thanks, Harry

MichaelG.

[Ady1Participant @ady1]

I also log out of my ISP periodically, and log back in.

This changes your internet address number and makes it harder for places like google to track you

[SteambuffParticipant @steambuff]

That depends who your ISP is and what package you are on …. I have a fixed IP Address when connecting from home, so logging out and in again will make no difference as I will always have the same address.

Dave

 

Edited By Steambuff on 25/01/2017 00:44:08

[Ady1Participant @ady1]

That's pretty unusual

Means you can run your own website and server from home

[Enough!Participant @enough]

Posted by Ady1 on 25/01/2017 01:44:15:

That's pretty unusual

Not really …. I have a fixed ip too. Almost every isp I know offers it at a small additional cost.

Whether your (dynamic) ip changes when you log off varies too. In some cases simply logging off and on again will change the ip, in others you need to log off for a few hours (or days) before it will change. Some isps recently are giving you effectively a static ip as basic (probably helps them keep track of you).

[Roger Provins 2Participant @rogerprovins2]

My IP address is not "fixed" as such but it rarely changes, certainly logging off and on again would not change it.

Roger

Edited By Roger Provins 2 on 25/01/2017 04:49:58

[HowiParticipant @howi]

Your internet IP address is assigned to your router not your computer, with dynamic addressing you would need to reboot your router to get your ISP to reassign your IP address, if static then obviously it would make no difference.

Your computer and other devices are on the internal home network and ip addresses are usually issued by your router using dhcp. Usually from the range 192.168.?.?

[john carruthersParticipant @johncarruthers46255]

No mention of Tor browser?
I find it an absolutely essential tool when organising regime change.

[Ady1Participant @ady1]

For BT users only business users are permitted a fixed ISP address

Fixed ISPs are not allowed on a home user package

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