What Did you do Today 2022

[RobinParticipant @robin]

Posted by Mark Rand on 23/10/2022 19:30:48:

Aha! Probably a far simpler solution than my one of making a completely new driving sleeve, with its internal splines, external keyways and multiple concentric diameters for my 1960's Beaver milling machine.

It is nice to have a mill that doesn't sound like a Vickers gun when taking interrupted cuts though!

Edited By Mark Rand on 23/10/2022 19:32:42

A glutton for punishment I have been working on this machine for 2 years now, when I stop that will be it. No turning back

Robin

[RobinParticipant @robin]

Springs not here yet so I go for a trial fit. Heeds another 10.8mm of spline

Muggins here forgot that you don't get to use the whole spline length if cut on a horizontal mill.

The mighty Rong-Fu mill drill leaps to my rescue.

I will admit to wilting slightly when I hit this latest set-back, but the deed is now done, all water under the bridge.

Next the wiring

[JellyParticipant @jelly]

I bought a bunch of Bisley Cabinets from a company who turned out to have had a re-organisation of their factory and bought new storage solutions…

They're kinda tatty, but the ones I've already collected have allowed me to condense a lot of my storage whilst also increasing accessibility of stuff.

This re-organisation has of course, temporarily created a fantastic mess into the bargain, I'm due to pick up the last of the cabinets tomorrow and will hopefully get stuff squared away over the weekend.

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Whilst I was at it I also took a bunch of broken motors to the scrappy, my local EMR yard was offering well above market price (£570 a tonne, over a market rate of £450) on motors, so the timing was right. weighing in 250kg of motors and transformers paid for all the cabinets, whilst clearing a bunch of useless, heavy and bulky stuff out; Win-Win!

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I finally procrastinated from finishing my re-organisation by fitting the X-Axis Scale for my Lathe DRO.

It's rather crude in the bracketry department again, but I was able to use the mounting holes for the X-axis adjustable stop assembly and avoid modifying the lathe at all.

I do have a better approach in mind to mount it more permanently using the casting on the saddle which carries the taper attachment and a welded bracket assembly to bolt on, and will probably do that using 1μm scale to replace that 5μm one in the fullness of time…

But for now, that's a significant improvement on no DRO, and whilst the X-Axis stop is very handy and it would be good to get it back, it's somewhat less useful once you have a DRO fitted.

[Nigel Graham 2Participant @nigelgraham2]

A day at the W&DMES track….

Weymouth Model Railway Association is holding a weekend exhibition in Budmouth College, its first in the school whose grounds are inhabited by our (W&DMES) track and small club-house.

Saturday and Tuesday evenings are only normal club times anyway, but we are operating as an adjunct to the WMRA show. We did not know how busy we'd be – and we were, keeping 3 steam and 1 battery-electric diesel-outline locos, all 7:1/4" g. NG outline in action. We gave rides but without charging for them. Plenty of services on the raised garden scale circuit, too, and road steam representation.

With my apologies for the low picture quality (my hands have always been wobbly and the snaps were rather on the fly), 4 of the better ones:

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[Nigel BennettParticipant @nigelbennett69913]

I'm back on my 5"G Invicta now, and the tender axle is next. It's going to be as near as I can make it to the current exhibit in Whitstable Museum but with the hope that it might just pull me. It owes nothing whatsoever to LBSC's Canterbury Lamb. My small version will have a multi-tubular marine boiler instead of the single flue big brother has now.

Here's how I hope it will look in due course (if my CAD system is to be believed):

There is still a lot of tweaking to do to the valve gear and pipework on the CAD yet.

The two-wheeled tender (!!!) is based on the contemporary illustration of the opening of the line in 1830. Despite four-wheeler pontifications by authoritative historians, I have taken the naïve view that despite certain other inaccuracies in the old picture, the artist could count… besides, it's quicker to make as it has fewer parts!

Progress to date, with Ed Parrott providing the laser-cut sloping cylinder frames:

The wheels were an interesting exercise, being fabricated. Here the tender wheels have been brazed up; the loco wheels are yet to be done.

It's amazing how spindly it is. The loco main frames are lengths of 3/8" x 1/8" mild steel. They should by rights be only 2mm thick…

[DrDaveParticipant @drdave]

I am building David Haythornthwait’s version of the pillar drill. Having made the bits for the arms, and glued them together, I spent this morning trying to bore the holes down the centre of the first arm. It did not go well! Following David’s instructions, I drilled 12 mm holes through the steel blocks to aid alignment at the next stage. All but one hole were true; the last deviated by a mm or so over the height of some 55 mm.

I bored this “bent” hole first. It must have had some slag in it, even though it was from a respected supplier rather than scrapbinium. There are several hard areas that the carbide insert is struggling with. I was aiming at a bore of 17 mm to suit some bronze bushes. The bush is a rattle fit at the start of the hole, but only goes ⅔ of the way in before becoming a press fit.

When the second hole is done (the boring bar is behaving at the mo), I will have to press the bearings in with a drop of Araldite & ream straight & to size, if needed.

Why is nothing simple?

[duncan webster 1Participant @duncanwebster1]

After weeks of procrastination I finally made the last few connectors to couple my loco chassis to the compressor. Worked straight away. Now to couple up the reversing lever and get on with the boiler.

[bernard towersParticipant @bernardtowers37738]

blast from the past . Had a pair of these turn up today for overhaul. Haven’t done any for quite a while. Good thing is it’s from a hot rod so should get a test drive,

[Mick B1Participant @mickb1]

Finished and delivered to the railway 2 sets of Water Gauge Nuts for S160 locos. I do this stuff for fun, as a volunteer :-

They fit the empty thread on the bulkhead fitting – 1 7/16" x 12 TPI, probably Whit form though I guess it might theoretically be US 60° – but Whit form thread depth seemed to work. I started from a length of 2" LG2 gunmetal, which I had to hex to 1.67" A/F on the Bridgy's divvy head, then bandsaw into blanks as it wouldn't fit through the spindle in either my WM20V or the railway's Colchester student.

Somebody – not me – bu99ered the 13T end of the 2nd headstock shaft gear in the Colchy, so only the top 4 speeds are available, but that was ok for getting the meat off so I could take 'em home to finish on the Warco. Trying to source a replacement gear only showed up new-made at correspondingly eyewatering prices, while most of the other gears were available cheap S/H, so my guess is it's a common disaster, probably from trying to change speeds on the run.

The bore in the sleeved nuts is 3/4" reamed. Screwcutting to a deep shoulder like this needs good nerve and sharp reactions. I was doing it at 150 RPM in the Warco 'cause I couldn't be bothered (never have been) to change the belt to low speed. But the recess at the far end of the thread is *just* wide enough to stop the lathe when you hear the cut finish singing. I still got a couple of light bottomings but refacing a thou or two off the bottom of the bore was enough to delete the evidence.

Taking a break from this stuff now, maybe to make some Chrissy presents for the grandkids…

Edited By Mick B1 on 11/11/2022 17:25:53

[Chris MateParticipant @chrismate31303]

A few years back I visited a 2nd hand shop on nearby town which I do frequently, however that time I looked into a cabinet full of cutlery(Never looked here) and to my surprise saw 2 small vices, one good for my small drillpress(but not a drillpress vice I would say), and other one looks like a machinest vice very solid but small and can do angle. So this week I mounted it to an old X/Y vice I used for many years and scrapped since I got the mill, mounted it to the base of this vice to get it higher for small milling jobs. It does not have an achme thread, but one of those where the one side is striaght and the other side at an angle, not a normal thread either. I tested it, it holds up in milling, it was cheap and I repainted both.

[BazyleParticipant @bazyle]

Interesting talk at Exeter DMES last night about the railway through the Khyber pass. Don't conflate it with the Darjeeling one. Our speaker, an irrigation engineer, had been there repeatedly over 30 years and even sat on a chair strapped to the front buffer beam of the 1927 loco that was still running, just, in 1998.

Now without cheating on that search engine, what gauge is it? I wonder if anyone models it?

[Bob Unitt 1Participant @bobunitt1]

Posted by Chris Mate on 12/11/2022 03:33:02:

It does not have an achme thread, but one of those where the one side is striaght and the other side at an angle, not a normal thread either.

AKA a Buttress Thread.

[Dave WoottonParticipant @davewootton]

Been meaning to get around to this for ages finally got my round tuit. One of the things that I've found with my 254 is that the large faceplate is a bit awkward for small stuff, the slots for mounting start a long way out from the centre to clear the D1-3 backplate. I was given a backplate that had been modified at some point by machining down the o/d to just bigger than the mounting flange, and also a lathe backplate casting that the threading of the centre hole had gone horribly wrong. I managed to combine the two to make a small faceplate for smaller work, using M6 tapped holes instead of slots. Shame about the large centre hole, I'll see how it goes and may loctite in a plug of cast iron and reface it. Much better than the scruffy bit of old alloy plate I've been using bolted to the large faceplate.However I'll probably keep that as you don't feel guilty about making a few tapped holes in it for holding odd shaped things.

[JellyParticipant @jelly]

Finally got round to installing my dessicant dehumidifier after it sitting in the workshop a month of not having time.

I need to buy some 75mm PVC PN10 pipe and fittings to replace the Jerry rigged connections with 100mm ducting; then sort out programming a PLC up to integrate it with the trace heating to maximize efficiency.

Currently I have just this wired to a cheap smart switch which will act as a humidistat, whilst the trace heating runs off a similar smart switch which acts as a thermostat.

My hope is that this will be a far more energy efficient rust prevention tool than trace heating alone, as it can remove a vast amount of humidity from the air very quickly, and will work equally efficiently regardless of air temperature (unlike refrigerant dehumidifiers)…

 

Oh and rather irritatingly the closest I could get it to the ceiling results in the bottom of the brackets being at 6'2" in the air…

Just above my eye-line, but still at prime forehead gouging height!

I think some pipe lagging is probably in order to pad that out.

Edited By Jelly on 13/11/2022 16:24:19

[GreensandsParticipant @greensands]

Finally got around to replacing a previously fitted TDI used for measuring saddle movements on the Myford with a digital linear scale. Slotted holes in the fixing brackets makes it quick and easy to fit and remove and hopefully located in a position offering free access to all the usual controls.

[JellyParticipant @jelly]

Posted by Jelly on 13/11/2022 16:18:47:

My hope is that this will be a far more energy efficient rust prevention tool than trace heating alone, as it can remove a vast amount of humidity from the air very quickly, and will work equally efficiently regardless of air temperature (unlike refrigerant dehumidifiers)…

Some brief test data on this from last night compared to data collected on similar nights (in terms of temperature and humidity profiles) with different approaches suggests it's going to work out far superior to trace heating or heating alone.

The next piece of data I need to gather is what the "recovery rate" of humidity is for direct dehumidification, (which is linked to Air Changes per Hour and external humidity, but must effectively be empirically determined) as compared to heating (where the thermal effects predominate, and I have a decent thermal model from when I did the insulation).

I also need to:

• finish the last bits of the insulation job,
• replace the outlet grilles for the welding extractor with flap-type grilles to reduce the external airflow which can pass through with wind, and
• sort the moisture ingress under the bay door cill during heavy rain using some combination of epoxy, concrete, and diversion.

As otherwise I'm actively fighting things which could just be mitigated.

 

Edit:

There's also a third parameter needed, the surface temperature of various machines/other major heat sinks as that will define the temperature which condensation would occur at, allowing me to produce an expression fo the "never exceed" value for RH humidity.

I'm not sure how much this will swing or be influenced by heating, especially as the biggest machines are largely thermally isolated from the floor; otherwise I could assume it to be the average sub-soil temperature for my area, as that would be the predominating route of heat loss; but that would over emphasise the amount of dehumidification needed.

Edited By Jelly on 14/11/2022 14:23:22

[iNfParticipant @inf]

Made some coloured chips, it's nice being able take decent d.o.c/feeds. The Ml7 is sulking in the corner

[John HinkleyParticipant @johnhinkley26699]

Not just today, but yesterday as well. While waiting for the drawings and construction notes for the Hemingway Kits Chenery V-Twin engine to arrive, I amused myself with this variation on the indexing theme that I employed on my low-profile rotary table and simple indexer projects.

The principle is exactly the same. A close-fitting stepped ring is fastened to the spindle flange (in my case) of the lathe by four grub screws and the "vernier" plate is mounted to the headstock casting by three screws and stand-offs.

The holes in the vernier plate are equispaced at 11° intervals so that a 5mm dowel pin passing through the chuck plate and then aligned with the requisite hole in the vernier plate rotates the spindle by that amount. For example, for an angular displacement of 48°, place the 5mm dowel in the 0-0 hole at 12 o'clock on the chuck plate, perform whatever process is required, then disengage the dowel from the vernier plate and rotate the chuck 40° anti-clockwise on the chuck plate plus a further rotation to hole 8 on the vernier and reinsert the dowel pin. Perform the next operation and job done.

The whole thing would be removable when not in use.

CAD mock-up of the system in use:

John

[John HinkleyParticipant @johnhinkley26699]

Upon reflection, perhaps I didn't explain that very well! After the 40° movement, rotate the chuck a little (8° ) until the dowel slides through the chuck plate and into the vernier plate hole marked "8".

I hope that hasn't muddied the waters further!

John

Emoji removal edit

Edited By John Hinkley on 15/11/2022 19:31:17

Edited By John Hinkley on 15/11/2022 19:31:47

[RobinParticipant @robin]

Posted by John Hinkley on 15/11/2022 17:57:12:

Not just today, but yesterday as well. While waiting for the drawings and construction notes for the Hemingway Kits Chenery V-Twin engine to arrive, I amused myself with this variation on the indexing theme that I employed on my low-profile rotary table and simple indexer projects.

John

Did you get a laser engraver for your birthday? Sometimes I think I could do wonderful things with a laser engraver, particularly graduated scales. I am just not a pantograph sort of person

[Chris MateParticipant @chrismate31303]

I feel happy today after completing my 1st toolholder for holding a larger triangle insert with zero degrees so you can uses 3x tips on both sides. I got a set of these from somebody else,Japanese make.
I used what I got, a piece of metal from a Toyota steering coloum, mill the piece sqare, mill the head by 5 degrees negative for this insert. I then managed to get the hole drilled and thresaded(6mm) in correct place, then used a 6mm grubscrew and modify the tip on lathe to have a cam lock, I used 16 thousands feeler guage to get the offset on one jaw of 3 jaw chuck on lathe.

To my surprise he camlock worked well and lock the insert without trying to shift it while locking.

[Craig BrownParticipant @craigbrown60096]

Spent a couple of hours making a part you can buy for £1

[John HinkleyParticipant @johnhinkley26699]

Robin,

If I get around to making it, I'll use my Shapeoko 3D router. Having difficulty sourcing 12mm thick aluminium 180 x 180mm at a price that I can justify.

John

[duncan webster 1Participant @duncanwebster1]

Posted by duncan webster on 08/11/2022 19:48:50:

After weeks of procrastination I finally made the last few connectors to couple my loco chassis to the compressor. Worked straight away. Now to couple up the reversing lever and get on with the boiler.

Ah well, it might have run, but the timing isn't right, I'm busily making new eccentric rods having re-adjusted the return cranks

[Martin KyteParticipant @martinkyte99762]

Posted by duncan webster on 19/11/2022 23:58:43:

Posted by duncan webster on 08/11/2022 19:48:50:

After weeks of procrastination I finally made the last few connectors to couple my loco chassis to the compressor. Worked straight away. Now to couple up the reversing lever and get on with the boiler.

Ah well, it might have run, but the timing isn't right, I'm busily making new eccentric rods having re-adjusted the return cranks

Well done Duncan, sounds like you have got over the hump of “if I don’t test it I don’t know it won’t run” and are now happily on the other side.

regards Martin

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