What did you do today (2015)

[Ady1Participant @ady1]

and the last thing you need it times of real crisis is lawyers and accountants

I visit an elderly lady now and then who lived in Edinburgh in March 1941

Around 500 German bombers flew over Edinburgh-(Full of lawyers and accountants) over 2 days and didn't drop a single bomb

They followed the Forth valley river by night through to Glasgow and flattened Clydebank-(almost zero lawyers and accountants). 7 houses out of 12000 went undamaged

The Clydebank Blitz

So lawyers and accountants are in fact incredibly useful if you don't want to be bombed in a war

Edited By Ady1 on 20/10/2015 10:23:01

[Clive HartlandParticipant @clivehartland94829]

It would appear from reports that the imported steel is of inferior quality, GB is renowned for making quality steel.

Perhaps there is a niche market for what is left of our steel producers to make these special steels?

Clive

[Ady1Participant @ady1]

Perhaps there is a niche market for what is left of our steel producers to make these special steels?

British management is amongst the worst on planet earth, too much hubris and a class system which remains intact to this day. A secret squirrel culture in our corridors of power doesn't help.

We're probably the only industrialised nation which has ever lost 100% of its car industry to foreign interests.

Rolls Royce. unique specialised product. Black taxis. unique specialised product

All foreign owned now, plus many other car companies

Internal politics keeps us from getting ahead as well, Sheffield forgemasters was meant to get a loan to make them one of the top castings makers in the world, a real top tier manufacturer

Sheffield Forgemasters' £80m nuclear parts loan axed

Then in July of the same year…

Secret files reveal lobbying behind axeing of Sheffield Forgemasters loan

The bottom line is this country only does anything really useful for its society after a world war

WW1 gave us the representation of the people act (one man one vote)

WW2 gave us stuff like the NHS

During peacetime in Britain it's a simple case of:

"the more things change the more they stay the same"

[Ady1Participant @ady1]

Even without that loan, Forgemasters is one heck of a company, the biggest in Europe

Hundreds work on major steel deal at Forgemasters

Forgemasters said the castings would be "some of the largest individual cast components ever manufactured".

Steve Price of Forgemasters said it was an important contract for the firm.

"It is also important for the UK, as one of the few countries in the world and the only country in Europe, with the skills and capacity to produce these ultra-large castings," he said.

Edited By Ady1 on 20/10/2015 11:33:02

[KWILParticipant @kwil]

Conversely you could say that the report in the G******* about so called "secret files", is a mixture of innuendo and mischief and that in fact the illegality of the proposed loan was in fact correct. No attempt is made in the report to confirm or deny the legal position.

Of course a Government supporter would not want that same government to walk into a EU Law argument if they knew the legal position from within the Industry better than the civil servants/ministers!!

Edited By KWIL on 20/10/2015 11:36:14

[Ady1Participant @ady1]

Any legal situation would only have arisen if somebody made a formal complaint to the EU

It's an amazing coincidence how Mr Cook "just happens to be the chairman of a rival steel company" isn't it

A totally amazing coincidence. Yup, no doubt about it.

Edited By Ady1 on 20/10/2015 11:47:47

[Gordon WParticipant @gordonw]

Back in the 70's we made jackets for the oil industry in Fortes field. These used tubes in many different sizes and steels. British Steel declined to quote. Most came from Japan, they had a method of making tube by rolling strip and wrapping round a mandrel, then welding. They could provide just about anything.

[BazyleParticipant @bazyle]

We have new coat stands in the office. Green. Apparently it was higher on the list for improvements than clean loos, carpet replacement etc. What is annoying is that the old steel tube ones vanished without me recycling any of them. Strangely my spirits are uplifted when I see these pseudo trees.

[Michael GilliganParticipant @michaelgilligan61133]

Posted by Bazyle on 20/10/2015 13:26:26:

We have new coat stands in the office. Green.

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How very, very, sad

MichaelG.

[V8EngParticipant @v8eng]

In one of the craft rooms of our local arts centre there is a lovely old wooden coat / hat stand, it's in regular heavy use!

Metal, that new fangled stuff will never catch on! 

Edited By V8Eng on 20/10/2015 15:33:07

Edited By V8Eng on 20/10/2015 15:36:27

[Harry WilkesParticipant @harrywilkes58467]

Hi Jim

The motorcycle belonged to the late Len Crane who in his early years raced motorcycles and motorcycle/sidecar the Triumph belong to Len and that's about all I can tell you.

Cheers H

Posted by JimmieS on 18/10/2015 21:21:19:

Hi Harry

Any info on the beautiful motorcycle model for the vintage bikers?

Jim

[jason udallParticipant @jasonudall57142]

today?..ME or MEW related?

spent a while jumping through hoops trying to give mtm some money.

 

much fun with the online subscription pages…

why does the password for loging in here not work for subs ?

do i want to start again or extend the current.. nope no option to extend current subs

ok letts login…sorry that email/password incorrect…mmm just worked for my login on the forum where I can check my bloody subscription details……..GRRRRR…

maybe i should just phone the NON REGIONAL subs phone line…why not go the whole hog and use an extortional phone line rate to collect the subs fee….GRRRRR again..

HACKED OFF …

yEAH a bIT…

 

 

 

Edited By jason udall on 20/10/2015 16:41:56

[john carruthersParticipant @johncarruthers46255]

Today I cleaned up and ground a piece of 3/8" square tool steel that came with the old lathe I was given.
It is carbon steel stamped 'George Adams of London'
Once hardened and tempered to straw it holds a razor edge and cuts MS like silk, lovely finish.
Not bad for a bit of metal probably 100 years old.
**LINK**

[Michael GilliganParticipant @michaelgilligan61133]

Posted by john carruthers on 20/10/2015 16:58:15:

Not bad for a bit of metal probably 100 years old.
**LINK**

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Made with care, and probably only a couple of steps away from the ore.

These days, most steel has already been through several incarnations.

MichaelG.

[Neil WyattModerator @neilwyatt]

Posted by jason udall on 20/10/2015 16:40:07:

much fun with the online subscription pages…

why does the password for loging in here not work for subs ?

Sorry you are struggling with the new system, Jason.

I've just gone through it for my ME subs (yes I have to pay for ME!) and it is not yet working as it should.

The subscription pages should have a more obvious link for existing subscribers instead of a small 'already a member' at the top.

It's totally separate to the forum which is why you need to set up a new account to manage your sub, but once logged in you should be able to manage your subscription. Unfortunately it calls you a 'member' rather than a 'subscriber' which is a little confusing.

The link people need is:

me.secureorder.co.uk/index.php?force_sid=583inmsjv38391o4t6nd97kmd1&cl=account

You only need to register with one set of details!

Once you have registered you need to return to that page (unfortunately the link becomes dark-green on mid-green) and log in.

Once I had done all that I was rewarded with a page detailing my subscriptions. If you have a pending renewal it will allow you to do this.

I have suggested that a very clear link for existing subscribers is put on the 'subscriptions' pages post haste.

Neil

[Neil WyattModerator @neilwyatt]

Posted by Michael Gilligan on 20/10/2015 17:21:44:

These days, most steel has already been through several incarnations.

MichaelG.

Two thirds of current steel production is from scrap; I suspect that a greater proportion of general purpose steels is recycled than of high-alloy/high carbon ones.

Neil

[BazyleParticipant @bazyle]

One has to re-subscribe? Haven't had to for ME as far as I can remember. MEW sub was a 2 year one at a different start date so will I get an email reminder or something? can't even remember which email if any I gave.

[Frances IoMParticipant @francesiom58905]

I posted a cheque over 3 weeks ago to renew subs to MEW for 2 yrs but so far it hasn’t been cashed (I didn’t choose digital addon as with Linux machines it seems current issue unreadable and I could get no info as to whether backissues were likewise unreadable)

[jason udallParticipant @jasonudall57142]

Neil
Thanks doubly.
One for a link.
Two for the “company”..its not just me.

This sort of thing must be all the worse from your side of the desk…to have a third party jeopardise your work…grr

[jason udallParticipant @jasonudall57142]

I must be fu*king stupid.

Logged in
To the subscription site.

Address/details check

Expiry date check…
Link /button to add /extend/navigate to page etc. So as to make selection and or give them some money?…N F W………..

[JasonBModerator @jasonb]

I'm just glad that I do it by direct debit, mine has just renewed and I did not have to do a thing

[jason udallParticipant @jasonudall57142]

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[jason udallParticipant @jasonudall57142]

Please note in the above…”Here you can manage aspects of your subscription online. Check when your next issue is due to arrive, edit your contact details or renew your subscription.”..
Blowed if I can find it

[JasonBModerator @jasonb]

Can't find it either, just registered for my ME sub and get a page comes up with MEW logo and not a great deal else

[jason udallParticipant @jasonudall57142]

Yep thats the one

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