What did you do today? (2014)

[Neil WyattModerator @neilwyatt]

Shower pumps go the same way – that's what the motor in Southam is, a 12v shower pump motor with a new ball race at the front.

Considering the price of these things, I'm surprised how rudimentary the sealing is.

Neil

[Clive HartlandParticipant @clivehartland94829]

New Tweeny will arrive tomorrow and I am sure it will come when we are out! I have decide that i will in time have a go at overhauling this non working one. As all the houses inn this estate have one fitted the odds are that someone may need one!

Clive

[NJHParticipant @njh]

Hi Bob

That seems to be coming along well! You can never have too many S/O and high level (above bench height) are good. You might just want to consider dropping a couple of spurs down to a lower level for things like heaters or, as suggested recently, a dehumidifier. One near the door too where you can connect an extension lead for running a drill etc. for those little repair jobs in the garden. ( Guess who recently had to drill the concrete for some thunderbolts to fix the fence post blown down in a gale! " )

Norman

Edited By NJH on 18/12/2014 16:57:39

[Bob Brown 1Participant @bobbrown1]

Norman,

8 doubles at 1.2meters, two doubles at 1meter under window, one to the right of garage door as the door needs power, and probably 3 doubles along the other wall so 14 doubles or 28 sockets. Heating is going to be of the main central heating system. May put a dedicated 32amp outlet for a welder or similar but that can wait for the moment.

Have allowed for a parking 4 post lift but again that can wait as the money pot is getting low.

As the structure is built with cavity walls and fully insulated I am hoping dehumidifier will not be required but I have some thoughts on this if humidity does prove to be a problem.

Bob

[BazyleParticipant @bazyle]

Bob. You might want to consider an independent supply for an alarm (which I think might now be a regulation) and while I hate HSE etc poopers if you are getting it inspected anytime I think a socket within range of an outside door now has to be on an independent trip precisely because it could get used for an outside extension.

Even a ton of insulation and cavity walls still means you need a dehumidifier. You breathe out 6 pints of water a day so when the temperature drops it will condense out – even more so than some draughty sheds.

[pgk pgkParticipant @pgkpgk17461]

Stage 3 complete..

 

Stage 1 was actually getting delivery… it turned up on tuesday on a pallet..in the back of an ordinary large van. The driver then suggested we unbox and move the contents by hand. My answer was – " I can probably lift about 50kg still… can you manage the other 486kg??"

Yup.. no tail lift and not enough height to even consider trying to get my tractor loader arms in there. Then they claimed to redeliver yesterday… bull-faeces. I was in all day and we have 2 dogs – Ok one is old, knackered and deaf but the younger dalmatian barks at any engine – in the vain hope the driver has a biscuit.

It turned up today with a very helpful driver I was happy to give a bung to.. with a lot of heaving, practice and cetainly skills.. and some pushing from me we ran the pallet down a plywood runway to my shed. That was stage 2.

Stage 3 was getting it into the shed. And it's been hissing down all day. I dropped the bucket off the loader and slung the pallet from chains and ropes. It would have been easier to get it balanced sideways but just the inch too wide to get through my double doors. With the weight of headstock pulling it down it was more a case of one end coming off the ground and an angled low drag over the protected step and then a gentle shove with the arms to get the end of the box in far enough to close doors.

The woodburner is on and box and I are cosy. Stage 4 is to unpack my new lathe and start putting it and my engine crane together….

Obviously you guys have all done this.. but for a first time it's both a tad scary and exciting. Oh, it's a chester crusader delux and some basic tools came yesterday in a seperate delivery.

Edit. I should add this was in no way Chester's fault. It was the pallet company muck-up.

 

 

Edited By pgk pgk on 18/12/2014 18:31:31

[John Stevenson 1Participant @johnstevenson1]

Because it's a big Christmas break for many, a lot don't start back until Jan 5th I nipped over the road wif me fork truck and grabbed a waste wood skip.

 

This is the skip in question but not todays run.

 

 

The front door is on hinges and catches so undo lift and tilt and out it all comes.

 

State of play today.

 

 

Should have left the greed door on the front, it hooks on the tube going across.

 

Get another one on Tuesday when they knock off for Christmas but can keep the skip over Christmas and work out of this.

 

Should be a toasty holiday

Edited By John Stevenson on 18/12/2014 18:36:08

[Bob Brown 1Participant @bobbrown1]

Posted by Bazyle on 18/12/2014 17:36:27:

Bob. You might want to consider an independent supply for an alarm (which I think might now be a regulation) and while I hate HSE etc poopers if you are getting it inspected anytime I think a socket within range of an outside door now has to be on an independent trip precisely because it could get used for an outside extension.

Even a ton of insulation and cavity walls still means you need a dehumidifier. You breathe out 6 pints of water a day so when the temperature drops it will condense out – even more so than some draughty sheds.

Alarm??? fire? burglar? latter not too much of a problem round here as there is a moat crossed by ferries. Behind the old lace curtain there's an eye ball watching you!

Will see how the humidity goes and may fit a heat recovery extraction fan if needed but I do not intend to allow the temperature to get too low.

Bob

[NJHParticipant @njh]

pgk pgk

" Stage 1 was actually getting delivery… it turned up on tuesday on a pallet..in the back of an ordinary large van."

Ah that brings back memories!

When I bought my lathe I impressed on the company that we live in the sticks with restricted access – a 7 ton truck is maximum size. It arrived on a 26 ton lorry!!!!! What's more the access from the road is up a sloping lane. The drivers suggestion was – " I've got a pallet truck – have you got a couple of mates to help you get it to your property?

He was told, politely, to take it away and come back with a suitable vehicle!

Cheers

Norman

[pgk pgkParticipant @pgkpgk17461]

Pretty 'stickie' here too in depths of rural wales..but we do have a tar driveway to the first barn wide enough for an artic and i spent a lot of dosh last year having some of the mudways dug out and stoned so lots of turning room and less mud-paddling to get about the place.

All the delivery company had to do was ring and ask. Heck, they didn't even ring before rocking up today and there is always a chance that wife and i were out sorting pet sheep issues etc. (it's not a working farm… just a large lump of quite heaven but still lots needs doing)

[Gordon WParticipant @gordonw]

When my lathe, only about 50k, was delivered there was big labels stuck on saying "must be delivered in a vehicle with tail lift ". Was there a tail lift ? Spotty youth had no idea how to shift heavy stuff. Got it out by sliding down a ladder and then MY sack barrow to the door. He left me on my own then.We have had delivery vehicles refusing to come down the public tarmac road !

[pgk pgkParticipant @pgkpgk17461]

Stage 4 was putting the 2T engine crane together. It's only a 10 minute job to look at…so how come it took nearly 4 hours <sigh>. Not helped by needing 22mm sockets/spanners when my standard kits top out at 19mm.. And the Limited tractor tooling I have starts with a 24in adjustable and a 3 foot breaker bar 1" socket kit. It was better once i remembered the stilsons.

Stage 5 was getting the lathe onto it;s stands. I think I;m at 5.2.4 <double sigh>. The lathe is/was on timber skids on a pallet and I'd shoved the whole lot into the shed 'cos it was raining whe delivered. The crane legs didn't spread round the pallet so the lathe and skids had to come off with brute force and a wrecking bar lever – slowly pried off onto timbers and then swapping them to lower it and pulling the last set out. I think if i cut out the front skid cross member which has no function now i can get the crane legs round it to the CofG without moving everything in the shed to go from the other side. But my back hurts and I need a cuppa…But with the packing crate off and moveable contents shifted there's not more than 450Kg to shift…

[OuBallieParticipant @ouballie]

pgk,

I had the same problem with crane legs not passing round the pallet, so I used wood blocks under/between the upper and lower timbers to support the load, then cut the pallet away until the crane legs passed either side.

Chuffed with myself for thinking up that solution.

Today made a set of aluminium jaws for the Record No.1 case, and had to resort to the impact tool to undo the csk screws to remove the serrated original jaws.

Must sat the vice is a pleasure to use and look at.

Geoff – Eggs and bacon on toast later, my favourite bar none. Except for a peppered steak!

[Clive HartlandParticipant @clivehartland94829]

The Tweeny again, The new Tweeny arrived this morning Fri. I set to and have replaced the air tube and the light guide that goes up to the on/off switch as this new one has illumination when on. Lifted out the old Tweeny and lifted the new one onto the hook and eased it onto the captive screw and tightened it up. pushed in the 2 tubes, the air pipe and the light guide and ran some water and switched on. It runs quietly and is water tight.

Alls well in the kitchen for another 15 years.

Clive

[MuzzerParticipant @muzzer]

Muzzer. Good luck with the cut well stuff if you bought cutting tips. We stopped using them at work as they shatter and chip really easy.

Cheap can be expensive as we say😜

Bri

Bri

Do you know what grade of insert you were using and what material you were cutting and how? There are lots of different grades and shapes as you know, depending whether it's for intermittent or continuous cutting and the material itself.

Cutwel sells exclusively Korloy AFAIK. Not had any problems with them myself and have been pleased with the parting tool which was my original reason for getting more inserts. Having said that, my Bantam probably isn't in the same league as your machines at work.

Murray

[pgk pgkParticipant @pgkpgk17461]

Bum! I think I got sent the wrong rt hand cabinet stand.. from the accessory drawings it looks like it should be a vented variant with the coolant pump in there.. and there's no coolant pump elsewhere. I'm guessing they'll be closed for the next two weeks too – not that I'm short of other jobs that need doing and it'd be daft to do the scary lift onto the suds-tray just to have to lift off again for a stand change. Which means the hobby shed is going to be clogged up with stuff for the next while and pretty unusable.

It's an outside chance they'd be open monday and return/collect the part.

Oh, well.. I can always practice grinding tools.

[mechman48Participant @mechman48]

A few pics of machine & progress would be nice…y'know .. a pic' is worth a 1000 words.

George

[pgk pgkParticipant @pgkpgk17461]

John,

My right hand stand has no back (or front) venting and no pump supplied. While I don't see it's something I'd use much if at all it's what was in the package I paid for and needs sorting. I plan on locating 2 feet from the wall for access and cleaning room and because my shed has UPVC double glazing. Also a side lift would be difficult with just an engine crane with the foot brake in the way unless i fitted a bock and tackle to the rafters?

George

Re pics. Was planning on some when all fitted and tidy. It's easy to snap a few pics with a mobile phone but since this is a dead zone I haven't charged or used mine in 4 months. (my wife went to see gorillas in uganda a few years ago and got clear signals in the jungle and mountains!)

[BazyleParticipant @bazyle]

There can't be any insurmountable reason why you have to fit the cabinet facing the back anyway. If you mount the lathe on the existing cabinet or a pile of bricks you can lift just the tailstock end with a hi-lift as it only needs to go up 1/8 inch to swap cabinets.

[pgk pgkParticipant @pgkpgk17461]

There is always a way.

Indeed! I did consider options like levelling feet (silly prices I saw for heavy duty unless you make your own). 'Oxtools' on youtube did show some nice DIY skates for lathe moving and a DIY toejack

My shed was only built 2.5 years ago with laser levelled baseworks so the floor is pretty good – although my weight can bow the cabinet sides.

I planned to level the cabinet/suds tray then the shim the lump level on top of that…

pgk

[pgk pgkParticipant @pgkpgk17461]

Posted by Bazyle on 20/12/2014 10:31:58:

There can't be any insurmountable reason why you have to fit the cabinet facing the back anyway. If you mount the lathe on the existing cabinet or a pile of bricks you can lift just the tailstock end with a hi-lift as it only needs to go up 1/8 inch to swap cabinets.

I'm sure that's possible but a lot of fiddling relevelling etc just for the sake of a short wait. But thaks for the idea

[frank brownParticipant @frankbrown22225]

How a mouse caused Me to reflect on DEF 32A varnish :-

Its that time of year again, SWMBO got me to get the christmas decorations down from the loft. It seems that a mouse (or squirrel?) had chewed some gold sprayed polystyrene "seeds" on a piece of decorations. SWMBO said could I block up the holes in the storage crates?. I then remembered that in the workshop, I had some storage crates which had sealed lids, so I thought by using these I could earn some brownie points.

To gain access to these crates I had to roll away a really heavy storage rack, which had at least 100 Kg of tools on it, so I slowly moved the rack and gained access to my crates. The contents were then decamped into SWMBO's crates and my contents were put into the more open crates and stuck back under the bench. This is when disaster one occurred. Rolling the rack back it shed a wheel . Trip to a supplier, £21 worth of castors rated at 100 KG each and 4 hours work.

I had noticed that a shop made tool grinder which was also stored under this bench, had a mutilated 13A plug on it. Oh well, I might as well sort this out so the machine could be used. Changed the plug, When I switched it on, it operated for about 5 seconds then all the lights went out. B****r, unplugged it, reset the earth leakage trip in the house. Got the Insulation tester out and sure enough the insulation of the motor was only 5 M ohms at 600V. Stripped the motor down and the PVC insulation on the lead out wires within the motor had cracked and some had fallen off but the basic windings had an infinite insulation resistance. OK, so I sleeved the wires and reassembled the whole motor. Tried the insulation out again. B****r, its failed again, took it all apart and the point of failure was the paxolin terminal board. It was a little grubby but looked OK . I put the board on the central heating boiler overnight and lo and behold in the morning it's insulation was fine.

I then reflected on , that when I was an apprentice one job we had to do was to do was to varnish the EDGES of cut paxolin insulation board with DEF 32A varnish. I see they were right!!!

No DEF 32A varnish , I am trying polyurathane varnish, but I suspect the fact the board has been dried out would keep it going for another 20 years anyway!

Merry Christmas to one and all.

Frank

Edited By frank brown on 20/12/2014 10:57:37

[NJHParticipant @njh]

Good grief Frank !

You had better go and have a lie down!

… and a Merry Christmas to you and yours also.

Norman

Edited By NJH on 20/12/2014 11:06:29

[pgk pgkParticipant @pgkpgk17461]

Posted by Bogstandard2 on 20/12/2014 11:33:17:

PGK,

Mine is mounted on 16mm setbolts about 75mm long, with the bolt heads resting on the floor.

John

Cheers.

pgk

[Ron HancockParticipant @ronhancock63652]

Well started to cut my black 5 tapered boiler and drill out ready for dome.

I was using a cutter that jumped and left a nice groove.

Decided to leave whilst i cool down a bit.

So loaded my trailer up with tables chairs ect ready to do sort of BAR B Q on 27 this month for club.

Need to prepare early supposed to be 30 members if weather ok but cooking in Gazebo.

We will be having hot pork and stuffing Rolls

Beef burgers Hot Dogs mince Pies mulled wine.

Plus we are having a steam day witch is always good.

Just hope my cooking is up to it but will apologize beforehand in case to our Rugeley Club

If all fails chippy not far away.

Happy Christmas and a Happy new year to all

Ron

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