Warco 220

[Dave HalfordParticipant @davehalford22513]

 

6 bolt chuck mounting sounds like a nightmare.

Just noticed that one of the Warco photos featuring the reversing lever shows what could only be 3 bolt spacing so any 100mm chuck should fit the plate?

[DiogenesParticipant @diogenes]

..I don’t speak Italian either, but I’ve a suspicion that ‘controtesta per tornio‘ might translate as ‘tailstock’..?

Looks like the ‘Warco 220’ in GB = ‘Mashtroy C220’ in Europa

 

[Daniele FarronatoParticipant @danielefarronato46331]

Buon giorno, mi potreste suggerire qualche sito dove trovare la controtesta adattabile per tornio (tailstock for warco 220  mashtroy 210t).

[peak4Participant @peak4]

I can’t offer a solution, or a website, but which part are you looking for?
The bit circled in red or blue?

 

A couple of information sites for you

http://www.lathes.co.uk/mashstroy/

https://docs.hacman.org.uk/instruction_manuals/Warco-Lathe-220.pdf

Bill

[Daniele Farronato]

On Daniele Farronato Said:

Buon giorno, mi potreste suggerire qualche sito dove trovare la controtesta adattabile per tornio (tailstock for warco 220  mashtroy 210t).

Not sure how much it helps , but DeepL translates that as:

Good day, could you suggest me some sites where to find the adaptable tailstock for lathe (tailstock for warco 220 mashtroy 210t).

… and offers adjustable as an alternative to adaptable

 

MichaelG.

[DiogenesParticipant @diogenes]

Michael,

I found this lot in Bulgaria, home of the Mashtroy – if you were feeling helpful…

I must really dash..

https://www.machtechnica.com/en/about-us

[Michael GilliganParticipant @michaelgilligan61133]

Nice try, Diogenes, but That looks a bit ‘high-end’ for Warco et al

MichaelG.

[MichaelRParticipant @michaelr]

Mashtroy Warco explained here Link

[Nicholas FarrParticipant @nicholasfarr14254]

Hi, I’ve had a look at my Warco 220 this morning, and it has a 125mm three jaw chuck, which is mounted on the six hole backplate with an adapter plate.

As you can see in the above photo, it’s difficult to remove the chuck, without removing the adapter plate from the six hole backplate first, as the socket head screws hit the backplate after a couple of threads.

The backplate has its own little niggle, as there is only just a little over 20mm between the three socket head screws and the headstock, and requires a cut down socket head key, which I keep with the machine.

Once the chuck with the adapter plate is removed, the six socket head screws that hold the backplate onto the spindle flange are revealed, and if you have the optional 8″ faceplate which was available for this machine, you need to remove these six screws to fit it in place of the backplate.

The register on the backplate is 80mm, as can be seen.

Regards Nick.

[MichaelRParticipant @michaelr]

Could you fit studs into the chuck body and attach the chuck to the backplate with shouldered nuts

Similar too the Myford 254s marked with blue line

[MichaelRParticipant @michaelr]

[Daniele FarronatoParticipant @danielefarronato46331]

Buon giorno a tutti, grazie per quello che state facendo per me, sto cercando la controtesta cerchiata di rosso (Red) o qualcosa di adattabile. Non sono esperto in materia, sto imparando da autodidatta. Grazie ancora.

[DiogenesParticipant @diogenes]

Translates as;

“Good morning everyone, thank you for what you are doing for me, I’m looking for the counterhead circled in red (Red) or something adaptable. I’m not an expert on the subject, I’m self-taught. Thanks again.”

 

 

[DiogenesParticipant @diogenes]

@Michael Gilligan – yes, you are probably right – but thank you nonetheless, the tyranny of ‘finding work for contractors’ was calling..

[DiogenesParticipant @diogenes]

Potresti provare con un annuncio “ricercato”?  ..o qui?

https://www.model-engineer.co.uk/classifieds/

..o qui?

https://www.homeworkshop.org.uk/

“Controtesta” si chiama “Tailstock” in inglese

Forse è possibile montare una controtesta diversa su una nuova base/?’piede’ per adattarla al tornio?

Spero che questo abbia senso..

[DiogenesParticipant @diogenes]

If the OP doesn’t have much luck finding a tailstock, how difficult might it be to make a new base to fit the body of a different tailstock onto?

What shape is the bed on the 220?

[Michael GilliganParticipant @michaelgilligan61133]

I am not familiar with the machine, in either of its incarnations, but have just found some useful photos here:

https://www.suffolksteam.co.uk/warco-220-lathe

MichaelG.

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Edit: __ and the Warco manual; with a drawing of the Tailstock on p14 …

https://docs.hacman.org.uk/instruction_manuals/Warco-Lathe-220.pdf

 

[Nicholas FarrParticipant @nicholasfarr14254]

Hi, these are old machines, and the 220 lathe wasn’t in their 2002 catalogue, and I suspect only second hand ones will be available, if you are lucky to find one, (e-bay etc.) These are flat bed lathes with a Dove tail.

Stan Bray gave an “On Test” review of the 220 lathe, pages 29 & 30 in number 14 Dec/Jan 1993 of Model Engineers’ Workshop.

Regards Nick.

[Michael Gilligan]

On Michael Gilligan Said:

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Edit: __ and the Warco manual; with a drawing of the Tailstock on p14 …

https://docs.hacman.org.uk/instruction_manuals/Warco-Lathe-220.pdf

 

My hacman link was, of course, superfluous … because Bill had already provided it.

MichaelG.

[Nicholas FarrParticipant @nicholasfarr14254]

Hi, a few photos of the 220 Tailstock, which might be helpful.

 

Regards Nick.

[peak4Participant @peak4]

Since the bed design is flat with dovetails front and back, and centre height is 110mm, then maybe the easiest way to proceed would be to obtain a different tailstock and modify it.
As an example, a Myford tailstock is designed for a lathe with a centre height of about 86mm.
Therefore mounting it on a flat metal plate about 24mm thick would raise it to the correct height.
The dovetail can easily be bolted to the underside of the plate at the back, and a method similar to the original used at the front.

Myford tailstocks do command a high price, but I’m sure something similar, from a different lathe, would be available in Daniele’s home country

 

Bill

[Daniele FarronatoParticipant @danielefarronato46331]

Buon giorno a tutti. Stavo cercando la controtesta segnata in rosso (Red) sul messaggio di picco 4, o qualcosa di adattabile. Grazie mille a tutti anche per le foto e informazioni del tornio

[Howard LewisParticipant @howardlewis46836]

With those photographs, and some measurements from the machine, it may be possible to fabricate a tailstock.

If a secondhand one cannot be found from some other clone of the WARCO 220.

Howard

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