Vintage motorbike

[Gordon WParticipant @gordonw]

Hi, Ken. Yes that's the man, Ernie, Maybe I even met you there!. He worked on Riley cars also. I remember he was not amused at the M/C press coverage, all saying he had made new castings for crankcase when " all " he'd done was make a spacer. Also had BMW front forks liberated from Germany and carried home. Mike I remember that name. I once had a Tiger Cub trials bike, my only try at it, it was so bad I threw it into a quarry, but it survived.

[Michael GilliganParticipant @michaelgilligan61133]

Posted by Gordon W on 10/10/2014 10:39:38:

I once had a Tiger Cub trials bike, my only try at it, it was so bad I threw it into a quarry, but it survived.

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I had a lovely Bultaco 350 Sherpa, but only really used it for trail-riding [and, being road-legal, commuting to work!].

I did enrol on a one-day "masterclass", but bottled-out when we started riding to the practice area … The tutor was a young man from the Lampkin family [before Dougie's time, but it's in the genes].

MichaelG.

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Edit: corrected the closing line.

Edited By Michael Gilligan on 10/10/2014 11:29:01

[Michael HornerParticipant @michaelhorner54327]

Hi

Went to the Staffordshire showground for the Motorcycle Mechanics offering on Saturday. Took some photos of the Vintage stuff.

There's a few more pictures in the alblum, did't want to overload the post. The BSA triple is a V6!

Enjoy.

Michael

[Michael GilliganParticipant @michaelgilligan61133]

Posted by Michael Horner on 19/10/2014 11:19:45:

The BSA triple is a V6!

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That is very nice indeed

MichaelG.

[John Stevenson 1Participant @johnstevenson1]

Couple of shots of that V6 from the timing side.

Which was a much more interesting side. Crankcase was welded up for about 4 set's a cut and shunt standard cases.

[Michael GilliganParticipant @michaelgilligan61133]

Cheers, John

MichaelG.

[BERT ASHTONParticipant @bertashton57372]

This thread is not model engineering, there are websites and magazines for motorbike lovers.

[Michael HornerParticipant @michaelhorner54327]

Although plug caps where fitted there where no wires so don't know if it runs. I'm not familier with the crankshaft on these engines, just wondering if there is enough metal in there to stop it flexing.

Cheers Michael.

[Mike PooleParticipant @mikepoole82104]

It would appear that many people on this forum are interested in bikes, topics that do not interest me I do not read but given the habit of threads to wander I usually read most.

Mike

[Michael GilliganParticipant @michaelgilligan61133]

Posted by BERT ASHTON on 19/10/2014 12:42:11:

This thread is not model engineering, there are websites and magazines for motorbike lovers.

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Bert,

Please see my first comment to Nick_G, on page 1 of this long and interesting thread.

Let's not bother arguing definitions of "model engineering" … it was done to death last time.

MichaelG.

[BERT ASHTONParticipant @bertashton57372]

Point taken Michael, but I still think that we should stick to model engineering.

[Michael HornerParticipant @michaelhorner54327]

But what about the bees?

[Neil WyattModerator @neilwyatt]

Sorry Bert, I have to disagree. This forum is a place for the discussion of any hobby-engineering related topics. As this thread proves, a significant minority of participants are very interested in motorcycles.

If we followed your line strictly, we could not discuss clockmaking or tool-making.

If you aren't interested in this thread, you aren't obliged to read it, and if you want more modelling-related content, start a thread on a topic closer to your personal interests.

I'd also add that there is no material limit on how many threads and topic this forum can handle. People talking about motorbikes don't in any way limit the capacity for others to discuss their interests.

Neil

Edited By Neil Wyatt on 19/10/2014 13:59:19

[John Stevenson 1Participant @johnstevenson1]

Posted by BERT ASHTON on 19/10/2014 12:42:11:

This thread is not model engineering, there are websites and magazines for motorbike lovers.

True and that's possibly why the title was Vintage Bike and not Choo Choo

[Nick_GParticipant @nick_g]

Posted by Michael Horner on 19/10/2014 13:32:06:

But what about the bees?

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They have their own set of problems in dealing with Winnie.

They would engineer a bear trap but are struggling with the Chinglese manuals for the lathe, mill and welder they bought to construct it.

 

Nick

Edited By Nick_G on 19/10/2014 14:08:11

[ronan walshParticipant @ronanwalsh98054]

Posted by John Stevenson on 19/10/2014 12:28:20:

Couple of shots of that V6 from the timing side.

Which was a much more interesting side. Crankcase was welded up for about 4 set's a cut and shunt standard cases.

Not only a v6, but converted to overhead cams AND fuel injection. Amazing work by someone. As to the complaints that this is not model engineering, i like many on here have no interest in model making , but have a home workshop, the choice is to be a member here or one of the industry forums. Also there have been recently a good series of articles in the magazine about building motorcycle specials, so this thread is not that far off topic , is it ? Why not have a forum dedidcated to "home workshop" engineering work, separate to model making ?

[Michael GilliganParticipant @michaelgilligan61133]

Posted by ronan walsh on 19/10/2014 14:21:24:

Why not have a forum dedidcated to "home workshop" engineering work, separate to model making ?

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Ronan,

Personal opinion here [don't know if I'm right or wrong]: … Because we can often find something interesting and/or useful in the most unfamiliar of topics. I skim through most of the threads here, whether the headline subject interests me or not: If the forums were separate, then I probably wouldn't get around to looking in the model-making one, and that could be my loss.

MichaelG.

[ronan walshParticipant @ronanwalsh98054]

Posted by Michael Gilligan on 19/10/2014 15:56:23:

Posted by ronan walsh on 19/10/2014 14:21:24:

Why not have a forum dedidcated to "home workshop" engineering work, separate to model making ?

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Ronan,

Personal opinion here [don't know if I'm right or wrong]: … Because we can often find something interesting and/or useful in the most unfamiliar of topics. I skim through most of the threads here, whether the headline subject interests me or not: If the forums were separate, then I probably wouldn't get around to looking in the model-making one, and that could be my loss.

MichaelG.

Michael , my fault , its a forum section i should have said rather than separate forum. I have an interest in most things engineering , but not models. Old motorcycles, airguns, machine tools, steam. That could be placed into a separate area without interfering with dedicated modelling sections.

[Involute CurveParticipant @involutecurve]

The tittles at the very top say it all, Model Engineer, Model Engineers workshop, I build motorcycles at 12 inches to the foot in my home workshop, its my main hobby, I am however also building a 9F choo choo I will finish this when I'm too old and decrepid to ride bikes, this is a model, @ 5" gauge i.e. so does the fact that its a scale model qualify me to post in this forum, in addition to the above I've also made a couple of clocks and associate tooling again all made in my home workshop, should I limit myself to only writing about the loco on here and save the bike stuff for a bike forum, but what about the Horology stuff ( I've sort of lost interest in this so I'm OK with omitting this one for a bit ), but I am thinking of getting back into building model helicopters again, is this allowable?, ohh I almost forgot I also make tooling is this area of engineering to be omitted, perhaps we should all say bo*l*cks to engineering and start making "whine"

I should add I read just about all the threads on here its diversity is its strength not its weakness.

[Gordon WParticipant @gordonw]

I read all the postings, when I get the chance, you never know when some gem of an idea might turn up, even in a steam train question. Like a lot here I don't really make models. I do have an old cannon nearly finished. Hot air engines etc. are not models of anything really.Motorbikes are always interesting, the manufacturing methods might well be of use in a different field. I've been working on, and finally got running, a cheap chinese tractor, engine is based on a 50s BMC diesel. I could call it a 6" Zetor ? Just keep it up as is.

[JimmieSParticipant @jimmies]

As a member of several 'old' motorcycle clubs, from time to time, I have provided links to this site re techniques, advice, etc which may be of interest/use to bike restorers on club forums. Almost without exception I have received thanks. In many aspects of life there is a continual transfer from one 'knowledge zone' to another. Please let it continue.

Jim

[WindyParticipant @windy30762]

Being still interested in full size motorcycles and reading old books like Tuning for Speed by Phil Irving has helped me sort mechanical problems with my 129.33mph flash steamer.

Full size engineering no matter what discipline can be very helpful in designing and building miniature experimental engines there is so much information in the large scale world 12in to 1ft that can be of use to the modeller.

Neil keep these type of threads going it adds spice to this forum.

Paul

[Oompa LumpaParticipant @oompalumpa34302]

Posted by BERT ASHTON on 19/10/2014 13:12:51:

Point taken Michael, but I still think that we should stick to model engineering.

If that were to be the case, this thread would be a void. A blank space in the Internet somewhere. Nature doesn't like voids……

graham.
(taken more than a little aback by this comment)

[Bill PudneyParticipant @billpudney37759]

Posted by Oompa Lumpa on 19/10/2014 22:08:59:

Posted by BERT ASHTON on 19/10/2014 13:12:51:

Point taken Michael, but I still think that we should stick to model engineering.

If that were to be the case, this thread would be a void. A blank space in the Internet somewhere. Nature doesn't like voids……

graham.
(taken more than a little aback by this comment)

Or to put it another way….Nature abhors a vacuum. So when Nature identifies a vacuum, it's flat strap to fill that vacuum, and around here that means a hot wet vapour….STEAM!!!

Then there is the argument that motorcycles are not "model engineering". If entry to this website was restricted to those who practised building steam locos, it wouldn't be half as interesting as it is

Finally, surely that V6 BSA would bring a smile to the face of the purest of pure?? Absolutely gorgeous

cheers

Bill

[JasonBModerator @jasonb]

Happened to look at ME No 49 last night of 1901 vintage, series running " Motorcycles & how to build them" says it all really.

Bert, a while ago you started a thread about a tram, no mention of modeling it so should we delete that? Now it may be that you are going to model one but bear in mind people make models of bikes and bike engines so there could be useful reference photos in this thread.

J

Edited By JasonB on 20/10/2014 09:36:39

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