Vice

[Allan WebsterParticipant @allanwebster78962]

An early addition to the workshop was this vice which was dismantled, cleaned,

lubricated and painted. Has given years of faithful service.

After the addition of soft jaws, angle plates etc it is now more of a clamping

system.

[Allan WebsterParticipant @allanwebster78962]

[larry phelan 1Participant @larryphelan1]

Vice ?????? Surely you mean Vise ?

Standards are slipping !!!, Where is the censor when we need him [or her ]

[Nigel BennettParticipant @nigelbennett69913]

Vice it is. If you speak English. No censor needed. But if you speak American, then it's vise. Why that should be just makes me – um – "tyred…"

[Tim StevensParticipant @timstevens64731]

Look, we (who incidentally cobbled English together over 1,000 years), left the EU because we could be doing with their standards. So we don't look kindly on ex-colonials who forget that their own standards were only invented about 100 years ago.

There, nothing censorial about that, is there?

Cheers, Tim

 

Edited By Tim Stevens on 21/10/2021 17:20:09

[Howard LewisParticipant @howardlewis46836]

At least we now have a Record ( ! ) of a device being renovated and returned to useful service.

(Oh dear two "vices" , must be one of mine to stick to UK spellings )

Howard

[CirclipParticipant @circlip]

Sadly the English dictionary to replace the original sent with the Pilgrim Fathers went down with the Titanic.

Regards Ian.

[Rod RenshawParticipant @rodrenshaw28584]

Never mind the width of the Atlantic, I find a difference in the length of my workshop!

At the metalwork end it's a clamp and at the woodwork end it's a cramp, and sometimes it's the exact same tool that I have borrowed from the other end.

Does this happen in places other than England ? ( I am not sure if the Scots and Welsh have this situation)

Rod

[Mark RandParticipant @markrand96270]

Noah Webster ought to be suffering many torments for the butchery he did to our wonderful, mongrel, language.

[Frances IoMParticipant @francesiom58905]

actually if you read any 17th or early 18th century handwritten documents you will find many variations in spelling – several of which were adopted by the American colonies.

[Nick WheelerParticipant @nickwheeler]

Posted by Mark Rand on 22/10/2021 10:05:28:

Noah Webster ought to be suffering many torments for the butchery he did to our wonderful, mongrel, language.

It's no worse better than what the newly educated 'grammarians' did 100 years earlier

[egaParticipant @ega]

The entry for clamp in Salaman's Dictionary says "see cramp".

Traditionally, woodworkers used the latter term to distinguish clamp in the sense of a piece of timber fastened at right angles to the end of a table or other structure needing to be kept flat.

[mark costello 1Participant @markcostello1]

Is Your vise made of Aluminum?

[duncan webster 1Participant @duncanwebster1]

I don't know of any family connection with Noah Webster, but some American president reckoned that if you could only think of one way to spell a word you had a small mind. My grand daughter (age 5) agrees, she spelled cucumber as quoocomb, which I reckon is an improvement on the original

[Jon LawesParticipant @jonlawes51698]

Phantom limb pains are keeping me awake, at least thats how I'm justifying the fact I just looked up the origin of the word Vice (with relation to this tool). Apparently it comes from the Old french Vis, which comes from the latin Vitis, for vine.

So none of us are spelling it right, depending how far back you go.

There is something very satisfying about refurbishing the equipment that only usually gets used for working on other things. It almost feels like payback.

[Pete.Participant @pete-2]

Posted by mark costello 1 on 22/10/2021 19:57:40:

Is Your vise made of Aluminum?

If it was, it would be invisible, because there's no such thing.

Edited By Pete. on 23/10/2021 02:48:53

[egaParticipant @ega]

Posted by Jon Lawes on 23/10/2021 00:57:21:

Apparently it comes from the Old french Vis, which comes from the latin Vitis, for vine.

Yes, and according to OED because of the spiral growth of the tendrils.

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