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      Anonymous

        I have a device (Elgato Eve temp/air quality sensor – first generation) which runs on 3 AA batteries. It chews up alkaline batteries rapidly – NiMh even more so. No wonder they came up with a second generation model.

        Is it possible, with appropriate wiring to each end of the battery chain, to run this from a USB charger …. either directly or with a series resistance/diode?

        #513521
        not done it yet
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          @notdoneityet

          Security alarms are battery operated during mains failures? Float chargers are common for many applications, but most batteries cannot put up with over-charging indefinitely – and some won’t tolerate it at all.

          Anything is possible, but perhaps not quite so simple as you suggest.

          #513531
          Michael Gilligan
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            Very likely that a series diode would suffice. yes

            Silicon diodes drop about 0.6 volts, which seems just right.

            MichaelG.

            #513540
            Anonymous

              NDIY … sorry, I wasn't very clear there. I don't mean to run it with batteries installed (although I can see why you would think otherwise from my post). I'd be using USB instead of batteries.

              Michael …. seems to make sense. Thanks!

              #513544
              Michael Gilligan
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                @michaelgilligan61133

                Thinking a little further about it, Peter … You might do well to buy a couple of ‘USB Power Banks’

                One powering the device, and one available.

                MichaelG.

                .

                I bought a couple of these when they were on offer at £5 each

                https://www.ryman.co.uk/intempo-power-bank-portable-charger-4000mah

                … but there are plenty of alternatives available.

                 

                Edited By Michael Gilligan on 14/12/2020 23:47:41

                #513561
                Robert Atkinson 2
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                  Posted by Michael Gilligan on 14/12/2020 22:36:13:

                  Very likely that a series diode would suffice. yes

                  Silicon diodes drop about 0.6 volts, which seems just right.

                  MichaelG.

                  +1 for this, you beat me to it. A 1N4001 (or 2/3/4/5/6/7) or similar silicon diode in series with a USB supply or power pack will work fine to replace 3 AA cells

                  Robert G8RPI.

                  #513596
                  Howard Lewis
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                    @howardlewis46836

                    Since it is powered by 3 x AA batteries, there should be plenty of cheap 3 pin socket type DC supplies which will power the device. If your device does not have a 3.5 mm socket for such a feed, you may need to install one. It should only entail drilling one hole and a few minute work with a soldering iron.

                    Since most such sockets include a switch facility, plugging in the charger feed will disconnect the internal batteries,

                    Howard

                    #513656
                    Anonymous

                      Thanks for all this guys. Since I have an existing USB charger in the immediate vicinity with unused outlets, I think I'll stick to the original idea using the diode (got a few of those around too). In its simplest form I can just cut one end off a USB cable, drill a hole in the case and wire it in.

                      What I don't have is spare mains power outlets for (yet another) unidentifiable, wal-wart.

                      I already have a (one) lithium power bank, Michael, although I'm not sure exactly what it would buy me (in my situation). I'll think about it. I don't need portability (at least right now, though it could happen) It did occur to me though, that some enterprising outfit could make a similar device in the shape of 2, 3 or 4 AA-cells (or AAA) as a drop-in replacement for alkaline batteries in many devices …. rechargeable from the now ubiquitous USB chargers. Sort of a super-Nicad/NiMh pack.

                       

                      Edited By Peter Greene on 15/12/2020 16:16:01

                      #513674
                      Michael Gilligan
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                        @michaelgilligan61133
                        Posted by Peter Greene on 15/12/2020 16:11:20:

                        […]

                        I already have a (one) lithium power bank, Michael, although I'm not sure exactly what it would buy me (in my situation). I'll think about it. I don't need portability […]

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                        Hopefully insignificant, but it did occur to me that the power bank might be a more stable source of 5V than a USB charger.

                        MichaelG.

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