Unknown Machine ?

[John McNamaraParticipant @johnmcnamara74883]

Rise and fall headstock

[John McNamaraParticipant @johnmcnamara74883]

Hi All

A great friend showed me an old machine that has been in a family engineering shop for many many years.

It looks like a small lathe, although there is no tail stock. The manual cross slide feed may be an add on also. The carriage itself is a T slotted table.

There is a carriage cross feed connected to the spindle by gearing and a splined shaft, allowing the headstock can rise and fall.

It might be a bench top horizontal borer? Maybe gear cutting?

Does anyone know a little more about this intriguing machine?

Thank You

John McNamara

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Edited By John McNamara on 04/05/2012 08:33:01

Edited By John McNamara on 04/05/2012 08:52:17

[mickParticipant @mick65121]

Horizontal borer?

[Michael GilliganParticipant @michaelgilligan61133]

I can't identify it … but it certainly looks a useful piece of kit !

MichaelG.

[John McNamaraParticipant @johnmcnamara74883]

It has me baffled?

Please accept my apologies for links Rather than direct posted images could not get them to display after a number of trys.

John M

[Ady1Participant @ady1]

 

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Edited By Ady1 on 04/05/2012 10:10:50

Edited By Ady1 on 04/05/2012 10:11:58

[John McNamaraParticipant @johnmcnamara74883]

Thank You Ady1

I must have posted hundreds of photos….Today it would not work, which Website button did you use? Was it the link button?

Cheers

John

[Ady1Participant @ady1]

Just the link you gave, and the forum software image link next to the "camera" when posting

The hard bit is resizing it, a top number of 400 seems to work best

[thomas oliver 2Participant @thomasoliver2]

I am not sure what the basic machine is, but I can positively identify the vise arrangement as I have an identical one. It is a cheap far eastern one. Mine cost £26 about 30 years ago. I use mine similarly but on my bench drill to do light milling using the slides. it seems this vise has been added for the same reason to give more axes of movement. The basic machine would probably have a toolpost for facing or boring.

[GoCreateParticipant @gocreate]

A lovely little horizontal borer, as mentioned by Mick above.

Very useful for boring, milling and drilling.

Usually they have an optional adjustable support at the right hand side to support a long boring bar, similar to how you would use a boring bar between centres on a lathe with the work on the cross slide or vertical slide.

The table has the usual x & y axis, the horizontal spindle moves up and down on a vertical guides.

Nigel

PS I want one

Edited By tractionengine42 on 23/06/2012 23:23:19

[GoCreateParticipant @gocreate]

Also, normally the business end of the spindle has a powered slide for facing as well as boring.

Nigel

[Steve GarnettParticipant @stevegarnett62550]

Posted by thomas oliver 2 on 23/06/2012 21:19:20:

it seems this vise has been added for the same reason to give more axes of movement.

Sorry, but I beg to differ – you don't get any more axes of movement at all with that arrangement unless you mount the x-y vice at some sort of rakish angle on the table. The saddle has x movement and the table itself has y movement, as is clear from the pictures. I have one of those x-y vices too, and I think that in terms of smooth x-y travel, I'd rather rely on the lathe, any day.

If you have to have some arrangement like that for workholding, you'd be better off employing a proper milling vice rather than that thing – you'd get a far more rigid mounting, and inevitably better results.

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No I don't know what the horizontal boring machine above is, but the principle is the same as that of the Murad Bormilathe. The difference with the Bormilathe is that it also has a raiseable and lowerable tailstock, although aligning the whole lot is a bit of a pain… when I eventually get around to rebuilding mine, I will post pictures, because it's quite unusual.

Edited By Steve Garnett on 24/06/2012 11:11:19

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