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    Taris Jewell
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      @tarisjewell61133

      hi guys I'm after a strange one. my old Colchester master seems to use a left-hand acme thread 3/4 x 10tpi. and I don't really want to try and make that so I didn't know if anyone in the UK sold some.

      many thanks for any help

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      #20678
      Taris Jewell
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        @tarisjewell61133
        #596085
        Hopper
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          @hopper

          Moore International and others in the current thread on Boxford leadscrews.

          #596104
          Nigel Graham 2
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            @nigelgraham2

            Have you tried HPC Gears? I bought from them when I made a new lead-screw for my Myford ML7.

            (I fitted a second-hand, early-pattern screw-cutting gearbox that needs the screw cutting short to end just inside the wall of the box. Rather than risk an un-useable machine if I made a complete dog's dinner of things or the gearbox failed, and treating the lathe to a new screw anyway, I have kept the original lead-screw and other parts carefully as spare / reversion parts.

            #596128
            Stueeee
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              @stueeee

              Might be worth taking a look at this website: **LINK**

              #596141
              Dave Halford
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                @davehalford22513

                I think HPC is the only imperial leadscrew stockist in the UK

                #596143
                Hopper
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                  @hopper

                  ABSSAC UK mentioned in the other thread list them.

                  Surprisingly they quote a maximum accuracy error of 6 thou per foot for their precision screws. Makes all the arguing over metric thread approximation change gears on forums rather moot then.

                  #596190
                  Dave Halford
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                    @davehalford22513

                    Please put a link on, all I see in the catalogue is metric.

                    #596191
                    Nigel Graham 2
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                      @nigelgraham2

                      Try this one:

                      http://www.hpcgears.com/n/products/linear_motion/leadscrews/leadscrews.php

                      It is they I used, but note that "standard range" might not include your specific choice, and having it made probably won't be cheap.

                      #596405
                      old mart
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                        @oldmart

                        Stueee's link to Kingston engineering shows their data sheet 3, but unfortunately their easily available ACME 10 tpi is only 1/2" not the op's 3/4". The 3/4 x 8 ACME is available in rod and nuts, a possibility if the dial graduations could be changed. There are a great many more suppliers over in the USA, but unless you know somebody living there it can be difficult and expensive to ship things to the UK.

                        #596407
                        Nigel Graham 2
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                          @nigelgraham2

                          That's exactly what I bought from the HPC catalogue: 3/4 X 8 tpi LH ACME…

                          You don't need import it!.

                          #596410
                          Nigel Graham 2
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                            @nigelgraham2

                            OOOps, I beg your pardon. I misread the notification. You want 10TPI. Not the 8 I needed.

                            I've looked it up again:

                            http://www.hpcgears.com/pdf_c33/2.8-2.9.pdf,

                            and no, the only listed 10TPI thread is 0.5" dia.

                            So back to Old Mart's question of whether you can change the handwheel dial, perhaps make a graduated ring to fit over the existing one?

                            #596414
                            Taris Jewell
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                              @tarisjewell61133

                              hi, thanks for all replies I've emailed a few different people and it seems £250 is the best price which is more than I'm willing to pay. I'm interested to know some more about changing the handwheels if anyone can recommend a thread or a supplier of good metric hand wheels then I can use any thread I want. i would probably use a metric trapezoidal lead screw if possible.

                              now failing that I am planning on making the lead screw myself as I see no reason to why I can't and I should save £200 and learn a new skill

                              #596415
                              Weary
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                                @weary

                                I know that you wanted a UK supplier, however, a forum member on MECH sourced an acme screw-thread (albeit different to your requirement) from Roton Products in the US and had very good service from them. So ,maybe worth considering?

                                Here is Roton Products info' , & Here is the relevant MECH thread.

                                Kingston Engineering in the UK got a mention as a good supplier in the UK in that MECH thread.  Don't know if you have tried them, so here is their site.

                                 

                                Edited By Weary on 29/04/2022 21:04:38

                                #596416
                                Michael Gilligan
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                                  @michaelgilligan61133
                                  Posted by Hopper on 28/04/2022 11:09:14:

                                  ABSSAC UK mentioned in the other thread list them.

                                  Surprisingly they quote a maximum accuracy error of 6 thou per foot for their precision screws. Makes all the arguing over metric thread approximation change gears on forums rather moot then.

                                  .

                                  dont know

                                  Surely any serious argument is about approximations much worse than that ^^^

                                  MichaelG.

                                  #596419
                                  Michael Gilligan
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                                    @michaelgilligan61133

                                    Actually … that’s rather a disappointing spec. from ABSSAC UK

                                    Go Compare : **LINK**

                                    https://www.helixlinear.com/blog/acme-screws/what-puts-the-precision-in-precision-acme-lead-screws/

                                    MichaelG.

                                    #596421
                                    Taris Jewell
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                                      @tarisjewell61133

                                      michael it was abssac that quoted me £250 they don't stock them they can just custom make it ill email some more people over the weekend and see

                                      #596422
                                      Michael Gilligan
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                                        @michaelgilligan61133
                                        Posted by Taris Jewell on 29/04/2022 22:27:11:

                                        michael it was abssac that quoted me £250 they don't stock them they can just custom make it ill email some more people over the weekend and see

                                        .

                                        That makes Hopper’s quoted spec. all the more disappointing, Taris !

                                        … I wonder how much Helix charge

                                        MichaelG.

                                        #596423
                                        Hopper
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                                          @hopper
                                          Posted by Michael Gilligan on 29/04/2022 21:19:51:

                                          Posted by Hopper on 28/04/2022 11:09:14:

                                          ABSSAC UK mentioned in the other thread list them.

                                          Surprisingly they quote a maximum accuracy error of 6 thou per foot for their precision screws. Makes all the arguing over metric thread approximation change gears on forums rather moot then.

                                          .

                                          dont know

                                          Surely any serious argument is about approximations much worse than that ^^^

                                          MichaelG.

                                          Martin Cleeve's book Screwcutting on the Lathe lists compound gearing with standard set of change gears to cut metric threads on an 8 tpi leadscrew lathe with errors ranging from 1 in 3000 down to 1 in 8000 and that never seems to be good enough for some model engineers who insist on 127 tooth gears etc. But even 1 in 3000 is only 4 thou per foot. 1 in 8000 is thou and 'arf.

                                          #596424
                                          Hopper
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                                            @hopper

                                            And when you think of it, even 6 thou per foot is not much total error. That's plus or minus a quarter of a thou per inch. Pretty good for a mass produced item. You'd have to go to an expensive ground thread to fo much better. 

                                            Edited By Hopper on 30/04/2022 00:55:43

                                            #596429
                                            Kiwi Bloke
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                                              @kiwibloke62605

                                              It's good to see that Halifax Rack & Screw are still going, and now also have a branch in USA. Don't know whether they will still talk to Joe Public, but they were friendly a couple of decades ago… Good luck.

                                              **LINK**

                                              #596433
                                              Hopper
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                                                @hopper
                                                Posted by Dave Halford on 28/04/2022 14:30:01:

                                                Please put a link on, all I see in the catalogue is metric.

                                                Now that you ask, I can't find it either. Must have got it mixed up with one of the others. Sorry.

                                                #596440
                                                Michael Gilligan
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                                                  @michaelgilligan61133
                                                  Posted by Hopper on 29/04/2022 23:56:24:

                                                  Posted by Michael Gilligan on 29/04/2022 21:19:51:

                                                  Posted by Hopper on 28/04/2022 11:09:14:

                                                  ABSSAC UK mentioned in the other thread list them.

                                                  Surprisingly they quote a maximum accuracy error of 6 thou per foot for their precision screws. Makes all the arguing over metric thread approximation change gears on forums rather moot then.

                                                  .

                                                  dont know

                                                  Surely any serious argument is about approximations much worse than that ^^^

                                                  MichaelG.

                                                  Martin Cleeve's book Screwcutting on the Lathe lists compound gearing with standard set of change gears to cut metric threads on an 8 tpi leadscrew lathe with errors ranging from 1 in 3000 down to 1 in 8000 and that never seems to be good enough for some model engineers who insist on 127 tooth gears […]

                                                  .

                                                  Yes, I think we are in agreement there … and I have emboldened a few words in the hope of clarifying that

                                                  I do have an ‘purist’ preference for the use of 127 … as, of course, did Martin Cleeve

                                                  its inclusion brings simplicity and convenience [if you can make space to fit it]

                                                  MichaelG.

                                                  .

                                                  Edit: __ See the images of his lathe that I have previously posted in tribute:

                                                  https://www.model-engineer.co.uk/forums/postings.asp?th=104724

                                                  Edited By Michael Gilligan on 30/04/2022 06:40:13

                                                  #596441
                                                  Hopper
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                                                    @hopper

                                                    Whatever. I am not going to get into nitpicking over highlighted words. It's a casual social forum not a PhD thesis. (Although I hear tell PhD's are thicker on the ground than we would have suspected. )

                                                    .

                                                    #596442
                                                    Michael Gilligan
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                                                      @michaelgilligan61133

                                                      Then let’s skip the clarification and just repeat my main response:

                                                      Yes, I think we are in agreement there …

                                                      MichaelG.

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