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    Johannes Grabsch
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      @johannesgrabsch91508

      Hallo erveryone

      I am looking for the correct method to produce steel U-Profiles, I need 14 x 6 x 1 mm. I was trying to cut 14 x 14 mm square tubes with a thin circular saw on the milling machine. It is not easy to clamp the tube safely without excessive force, otherwise the tube will be bent. A circular saw will soon start to flex and the cutting line starts to wander.

      What is the correct method?

      Thanks

      Johannes

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      Johannes Grabsch
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        #293636
        Martin Connelly
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          @martinconnelly55370

          If the length is not too great you could push a piece of 12×12 wood into it for support. Just cut one side at a time and only deep enough to cut the metal, not the wood.

          Martin C

          #293642
          ega
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            @ega

            Won't square tube distort when one of its sides is cut off?

            #293644
            Johannes Grabsch
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              @johannesgrabsch91508

              Yes it does. I now think the best approach is indeed to cut only slight grooves into both sides and to finisch the cut using a hand fret saw. The circular saw must be 2 mm thick otherwise it will flex and run out.

              Is there maybe a company that could fold 14 mm channels from 1 mm material? Cheating …

              Johannes

              #293656
              kevin beevers
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                @kevinbeevers61752

                try looking for some drawer runners they come in differant sizes but you would have to cut the lips off

                #293702
                peak4
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                  @peak4

                  Regarding the clamping on the mill, try it without a vice on the table.

                  Slide a length of square bar down the hole and clamp both end down to the table. I've cut round tube successfully that way, with round bar down the hole of course.

                  #293709
                  paul rushmer
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                    @paulrushmer83015

                    Band saw and file works for me, try and have the weld on one of the cut faces cleaning up is much easier!

                    Paul

                    #293710
                    Johannes Grabsch
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                      @johannesgrabsch91508

                      I have tried a Band Saw too, but this was bad for the blade. How many teeth/in. did you use? I have learnt that the size of the teeth should be smaller than the material thickness.

                      Johannes

                      #293724
                      Neil Wyatt
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                        @neilwyatt

                        If cutting sheet (which is effectively what you are doing) with a hacksaw try cutting at a very shallow angle.

                        Neil

                        #293739
                        Chris Gunn
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                          @chrisgunn36534

                          I would do it with a 1mm thick cutting disc in an angle grinder, cutting it slightly over height and then finishing off with a sanding disc to the right height. You will be able to make the cut without distorting the thin wall, but it will be messy.

                          Chris Gunn

                          #293741
                          Anonymous

                            There is no 'correct' method; it depends on the starting material and the type of equipment available.

                            I'd fold from 1mm sheet. If the 6mm height is important I would make the sides slightly over length and trim on the mill. Since the channel is open it can be clamped for the full length using rectangular bar sitting in the channel. So it will be held rigidly, albeit the vertical leg is unsupported, so one would need to be cautious with DOC to avoid chatter.

                            Andrew

                            #293756
                            paul rushmer
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                              @paulrushmer83015

                              I used a burgess hobby saw with a 32 TPI blade, if using a coarser blade feed slowly.

                              Paul

                              #293758
                              David Standing 1
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                                Posted by Johannes Grabsch on 16/04/2017 16:57:44:

                                Is there maybe a company that could fold 14 mm channels from 1 mm material? Cheating …

                                Johannes

                                In the workshop, there is no such thing as 'cheating', only 'solutions' wink 2.

                                #293764
                                JasonB
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                                  @jasonb

                                  Having recently needed some channel section myself I went for the option of joining two pieces of angle, worksed out well. You dould solder or weld them together, mine were thicker so I went with welding.

                                  #293765
                                  Johannes Grabsch
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                                    @johannesgrabsch91508

                                    Fine

                                    My solution was a modification of a Parkside Angle Grinder Stand, that I once bought at Lidl's. I used a special made up wooden channel for the square tubes, a small angle grinder and a 1 mm cutting disk. As the pressure of the cutting disk is downwards and the tube cannot escape to the side, the cuts were surprisingly fast and straight. Actually on my first attempt, the tube almost shot through the thing, throwing sparks…

                                    Johannes

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