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  • #781221
    Me.
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      @me1

      Seems if someone totally unrelated to an issue can have someone else’s profile changed with no consultation between that user and Admin.

      After years of use of this site and forum and with no issues before my user name has been changed.

      I’d like others opinions on this please – do you think its acceptable for this to happen with no word or should i just take it on the chin and let others do as they wish.

      Surely if there was an issue you would have thought the Admin team would have contacted me first and not just applied changes suggested by another user.

      Thanks

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      #781241
      JasonB
      Moderator
        @jasonb

        Dave, he has not fixed the bug and it is a recent issue not one that slipped through when “Me” joined

        As can be seen the username has no affect, it is the @** where the problem lies. Just hold your mouse over “Me1” and look at the url it is taking you to.

        #781246
        JasonB
        Moderator
          @jasonb

          I imagine Andy (admin) has been trying to sort out the problem reported to him by Bill.

          I expect he is still working on things as the problem is still there, if there is a need to change your username then he may contact you but it looks more like the original @** is where the problem is not the actual username so he may well be able to revert it to “me”

          As you said in the other thread PMs have been working I suspect it is a recent problem due to some change in software, plug-in etc

          I’m happier that Admin are trying to sort things out then just ignoring the reported bug

          Not everyone had a number added there are quite a few without including myself

          Only admin can change a user name, Moderators can’t and certainly not other users

          #781250
          SillyOldDuffer
          Moderator
            @sillyoldduffer

            Hells bells!  I withdrew my answer on finding it overlapped yours in Camel-Back.

            You post appeared here well after I’d hit submit so I didn’t see it.

            Same thing with your post in this thread appeared: arrived after a delay!  Our posts are crossing.

            My main reason for commenting was Me clearly feels aggrieved.  No need for that, what he’s experiencing is bug fixing in progress, not a personal attack.  As the fix is ongoing I shall leave it to you.

            Dave

            #781253
            peak4
            Participant
              @peak4
              On JasonB Said:

              Dave, he has not fixed the bug and it is a recent issue not one that slipped through when “Me” joined

              As can be seen the username has no affect, it is the @** where the problem lies. Just hold your mouse over “Me1” and look at the url it is taking you to.

              Jason, it looks like admin are part way through, as the portion after @ has now changed.

              I did add screenshot to the other thread, but that bug has re-appeared and replaced it with an image placeholder icon.

              Bill

              #781256
              Me.
              Participant
                @me1

                And here’s me still in the dark as to what is going on with my account – my point of this thread is get someone to tell Me, that’s me as the user me what is going on…. it would only be manors to inform the user of the issues.

                 

                Just for reference – and as i seem to be getting ignored !! I want my user name to be “Me.” my participant can be @me1 @you5 @someone else27 – I don’t care about that I just want to be told.

                #781267
                Jon Lawes
                Participant
                  @jonlawes51698

                  Maybe a little perspective is required here? A bug has occurred on the forum, you haven’t been burgled. Life is too short to throw your toys out of the pram over minor stuff like this.

                  #781279
                  Me.
                  Participant
                    @me1
                    On Jon Lawes Said:

                    Maybe a little perspective is required here? A bug has occurred on the forum, you haven’t been burgled. Life is too short to throw your toys out of the pram over minor stuff like this.

                    Thanks for your input.

                    #781333
                    Mark Rand
                    Participant
                      @markrand96270

                      Possibly not trying to use a name that could be taken as a regular expression would have been a good move?

                      #781390
                      Me.
                      Participant
                        @me1
                        On Mark Rand Said:

                        Possibly not trying to use a name that could be taken as a regular expression would have been a good move?

                        I think your missing the point Mark, I have had the same user name on this site for a very long time, when i registered there was no issues with the name or my profile.

                        To get sarcastic replies from others telling me that my name is an expression that others may use is a real insult.

                        Now after others interference due to an issue with the way the look up code works my details were changed with no consultation.

                        I’m sure the word Mark gets used just as much as my name Me does – shall we see if Admin will alter the word Mark as its also used as a regular expression.

                        I’m sure you wouldn’t like the treatment I have received over this, a simple email from Admin advising me of the problem and a suggestion as to an amicable outcome would have been nice.

                         

                        #781396
                        Plasma
                        Participant
                          @plasma

                          <p style=”text-align: left;”>Me or Me1 , I agree, your name is the one you chose long ago and given the sheer volume of people on any given site, let alone the whole Web means names can be hard to arrive at. It also is an indicator of Model Engineer to me, not just the word me.</p>
                          So carry on using it here, no issues. As you said, a little consultation would have been nice.

                          #781397
                          SillyOldDuffer
                          Moderator
                            @sillyoldduffer

                            Earlier I deleted a post because it was overtaken by events.  In notifying Jason I said:

                            My main reason for commenting was Me clearly feels aggrieved. No need for that, what he’s experiencing is bug fixing in progress, not a personal attack. As the fix is ongoing I shall leave it to you.

                            As I understand it:

                            • A forum bug has allowed a member to set a name that’s used by the system.  Whoops!
                            • The bug affects other members, not just ‘Me.’
                            • Changing ‘Me.’ to ‘Me1’ looks like an attempt to solve the reported bug.  Seems it didn’t solve the problem completely, so the bug is still being worked on.
                            • As it’s not known what the resolution is yet, it’s difficult to consult on it!

                            Though annoying, it’s just a bug.

                            Mark’s comment about ‘regular expressions’ was an attempt to explain.   Regular Expressions are a pattern matching language often used by programmers to error check input.   REs recognise the shape of things like URLs, email addresses, telephone numbers and much else.   Chaos ensues if ‘Me.’  is interpreted by the system as a regular expression because the period symbol matches any character.

                            Mark’s post has been misunderstood.  Unlike ‘Me.’,  ‘Mark’ isn’t a regular expression, his reply isn’t sarcastic, and it isn’t a ‘real insult’.

                            I recommend patience.

                            Dave

                             

                            #781401
                            JasonB
                            Moderator
                              @jasonb

                              Me, it would be worth going to your profile and changing your username back the original “me”. As I said the problem that cropped up seems to be with the “@ me” which has now been changed by admin

                               

                              Dave, once again your bulleted points are all wrong.

                              – the system accepted the name “me” for a long time, something changed to caus ethe problem

                              – Not seen the bug affect anyone else

                              – It has been working correctly for the last day or so since “@ me” was changed to “@ me1”

                              – As above resolved by changine the @

                              #781403
                              Bazyle
                              Participant
                                @bazyle

                                Since the bug seems to be a side effect of certain words being treated by the software in a special way which I had never heard of before the solution is fairly obvious – have a rule on user names being at least 4 letters long (sorry Joe) and alphanumeric only, numeric limited to one trailing digit,  with a list of reserved words which may be dynamically extended during the new member acceptance process. All to avoid general silliness.

                                #781410
                                Grindstone Cowboy
                                Participant
                                  @grindstonecowboy

                                  I wonder what would happen with the username “null”? :0

                                  In all seriousness, the system should be designed to disallow problematic names or phrases at the very start, but after spending a long time working on government databases, I can say that a) it’s more code and therefore more expensive, and b) there’s always going to be one you miss.

                                  We were caught out by someone wanting to use the title of “Grand Vizier” once… 🙂

                                  Rob

                                  #781416
                                  Fulmen
                                  Participant
                                    @fulmen

                                    Rob, this has actually been tested IRL. An American fellow changed his name to “Null” to mess with the system, but the joke was on him when thousands of improperly filled parking tickets ended on his doorstep.

                                    #781420
                                    SillyOldDuffer
                                    Moderator
                                      @sillyoldduffer
                                      On JasonB Said:

                                      ..
                                      Dave, once again your bulleted points are all wrong.

                                      Jason please keep me in the loop.  I’m trying to poor oil on troubled waters and it doesn’t help when my colleague fails to communicate and then criticises my efforts.

                                      I’m also human enough to resent the latest in your series of ‘once again’ cracks.  They are unjust.  I could explain why your bullets are misjudged too.   Except starting a quarrel doesn’t help Me.

                                      Dave

                                      #781433
                                      JasonB
                                      Moderator
                                        @jasonb

                                        I’m not in any loop, have had no contact with Andy on this matter. I just go by what I see on the forum.

                                        #781479
                                        jaCK Hobson
                                        Participant
                                          @jackhobson50760

                                          I’d try and take it on the chin. I can understand the upset but I feel it is something I should not get upset over.

                                          I find the use of the username Me annoying as it makes me think that posts attributed to that user might have been written by myself.

                                          I try and operate under the assumption that i don’t really own anything I enter on a public forum and people might do anything with it. The use of my personal data is protected by law. Some might argue username is personal data but in this case I don’t think it benefits the world to consider it protected.

                                          If someone changed my username from jacKhobson to JackHobson, I will not get upset. If someone changes it to ‘a ‘jacKisaPlonker’ then I probably would… so in this case I would probably fail my ‘take it on the chin’ advice.

                                          #781496
                                          Michael Gilligan
                                          Participant
                                            @michaelgilligan61133

                                            In a probably futile attempt to calm some of the anger … let me recount a distracting  tale:

                                            Sometime in the late 1980s / early 1990s  I had a work colleague with the surname Allport [details conveniently forgotten to protect the innocent].

                                            The company had an internal eMail system.

                                            One day this system suffered an almighty overload crash … because someone had sent a message to ALLPORT [which I think was probably interpreted as ‘every port on the network’]

                                            If I recall correctly, this spiralled out of control when recipients started to respond.

                                            .

                                            I have just asked ChatGPT to refresh my vague memory of the product, and the answer might ring a few bells here.

                                            MichaelG.

                                            .

                                            Allport was a local area email system developed by Allport Network Systems, which allowed users within a specific organization or network to send messages to each other. It was typically used on VAX systems (a type of minicomputer from Digital Equipment Corporation) or in environments using DECnet (the networking protocol developed by DEC).

                                            The system was fairly basic by today’s standards but was part of the broader trend in the 1980s of establishing internal, local email networks before the creation of the global internet-based email systems we use now. It allowed for the exchange of messages, file transfers, and the early stages of networking within organizations.

                                            While systems like Allport were functional in their time, they were limited by the technology of the day. As the internet expanded and new standards like SMTP (Simple Mail Transfer Protocol) were established, these early, isolated email systems became obsolete.

                                            #781534
                                            Me.
                                            Participant
                                              @me1
                                              On jaCK Hobson Said:

                                              I’d try and take it on the chin. I can understand the upset but I feel it is something I should not get upset over.

                                              I find the use of the username Me annoying as it makes me think that posts attributed to that user might have been written by myself.

                                              I try and operate under the assumption that i don’t really own anything I enter on a public forum and people might do anything with it. The use of my personal data is protected by law. Some might argue username is personal data but in this case I don’t think it benefits the world to consider it protected.

                                              If someone changed my username from jacKhobson to JackHobson, I will not get upset. If someone changes it to ‘a ‘jacKisaPlonker’ then I probably would… so in this case I would probably fail my ‘take it on the chin’ advice.

                                              But its my name, why would my name be annoying. I have been known by Me for most of my life.

                                              #781555
                                              JasonB
                                              Moderator
                                                @jasonb

                                                Just to confirm I can get your profile up OK and send messages if I want now that you have removed the “1”

                                                #781560
                                                Mark Rand
                                                Participant
                                                  @markrand96270
                                                  On Me. Said:
                                                  On jaCK Hobson Said:

                                                  I’d try and take it on the chin. I can understand the upset but I feel it is something I should not get upset over.

                                                  I find the use of the username Me annoying as it makes me think that posts attributed to that user might have been written by myself.

                                                  I try and operate under the assumption that i don’t really own anything I enter on a public forum and people might do anything with it. The use of my personal data is protected by law. Some might argue username is personal data but in this case I don’t think it benefits the world to consider it protected.

                                                  If someone changed my username from jacKhobson to JackHobson, I will not get upset. If someone changes it to ‘a ‘jacKisaPlonker’ then I probably would… so in this case I would probably fail my ‘take it on the chin’ advice.

                                                  But its my name, why would my name be annoying. I have been known by Me for most of my life.

                                                  The problem wasn’t the ‘Me’, it was the ‘.’ The forum really shouldn’t have allowed a user name including punctuation  or special characters.

                                                  #781618
                                                  Vic
                                                  Participant
                                                    @vic
                                                    On Grindstone Cowboy Said:

                                                     

                                                    In all seriousness, the system should be designed to disallow problematic names or phrases at the very start.

                                                    Rob

                                                    I agree. Surely it’s not that difficult to reject any two letter names?

                                                    There was a guy on a forum whose initials were MG. He chose Emgee as a user name.

                                                     

                                                    #781620
                                                    Vic
                                                    Participant
                                                      @vic
                                                      On Mark Rand Said:

                                                      Possibly not trying to use a name that could be taken as a regular expression would have been a good move?

                                                      Agreed! Choose a silly name, get silly prizes! 🤣

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