Theft…

[Neil WyattModerator @neilwyatt]

Went to Wickes this morning. Apparently they are switching all their ranges to new stock. They've done plumbing but today it's door furniture and security.

All £1 or £3, hinges of all sorts, many types of security boltsm, locks, door handles etc. etc.

£1 for ten satin nickel finish drawer knobs, £3 for door locks! I bought two chromed brass 2×12"x1mm door push panels for a quid each, useful stock.

Neil

[BazyleParticipant @bazyle]

Wow, thanks Neil. I abandoned my coffee and went straight out. Just got back with my bicycle carrier loaded (yes I live that close to Wickes) . No push panels but got 2 magnetic switches for the shed and some chrome plated coolant delivery pipes amongst other stuff.

I owe you a pint at MEX.

[DuncParticipant @dunc]

"… Maybe a few tame cobras… "

Many years ago there was a story about a small corner store in the southern USA that had a unique burglar protection system. At closing every day the owner would release several rattlesnakes (perhaps not as deadly as a cobra but it still carried a potent punch) into the store. He would lock up, return the next day, remove the snakes and re-open for business. Store was prominently signed as to it's contents. Owner claims that he never experienced a break-in.

[Clive HartlandParticipant @clivehartland94829]

Snakes, I had them living in the house in Nairobi. I went to pull the curtains and snake fell off the pelmet and hung around my wrist, about 15" long thin like a shoelace.

I flicked it on the floor where the dog tried to get at it but the house boy swept it out the door and clobbered it.

Then , having a shower in the wet room I looked up and saw that a snake had sloughed its skin on the security bars at the window, boy did I have a quick look around to see what else was in the shower room.

Clive

[JAParticipant @ja]

Where I used to live the local hard men locked pit bull terriers in their lock-ups.

JA

[PeterGeeParticipant @petergee24605]

Posted by mechman48 on 06/11/2014 13:27:32:

It's a pity that we aren't allowed to defend our homes & families ( thanks to the EUHRC ) whereas in the states, & elsewhere more than reasonable force is quite permissible for home defence.. no doubt some pc person will have something to say on that comment…!

 

I would just like to point out that the UK's attitude to criminals "rights" when they are engaged in crime has nothing to do with either the ECHR or the EU. Here in Italy, which is 'in' both the ECHR and the EU, the right to protect your property extends to the right to using force to protect yourself by force if need be – including shooting the criminals if you are so inclined/armed. The only thing you can't do is chase them down the street, shooting them in the back!

 

So, instead of blaming the EU – "it's all the fault of the EU, what can we do to stop it?" – why not campaign for the change in UK law to bring you in line with the majority of countries in Europe? Yes, I mean all those other countries in either the ECHR or the EU (or both) that don't penalise people for protecting their property and families.

 

And, good morning, gentlemen…

Edited By PeterGee on 14/11/2014 08:37:48

[Anthony KendallParticipant @anthonykendall53479]

Posted by Kevin Bennett on 05/11/2014 18:39:50:

I had the same problem in January they had my compressor and angel grinder I ended fitting a door bar it is pain but you will not forget to lock it as you can see it it works for me

I thought angels were virgins and therefore not for grinding!

[Ian S CParticipant @iansc]

One of my mates owns a shop, and was having trouble with break ins, so he went to a surplus store in Christchurch and bought some rolls of razor wire, and installed that. No more break in problems.

Ian S C

[Neil WyattModerator @neilwyatt]

Posted by Ian S C on 14/11/2014 09:30:17:

One of my mates owns a shop, and was having trouble with break ins, so he went to a surplus store in Christchurch and bought some rolls of razor wire, and installed that. No more break in problems.

Ian S C

Keeps out those pesky customers too

Neil

[mechman48Participant @mechman48]

Pete/ Ian S C

That's precisely the point I was trying to make; it's the UK's legal system that prevents us from taking action to do anything to protect ourselves & homes ..& that is tied into the EUHR, as you say in Italy you can shoot an intruder… in UK it is illegal to own a handgun/rifle without just cause… it is illegal to put up razor wire on your boundary fence… it might injure a burglar/trespasser .. it is illegal to embed broken glass onto backyard walls.. ditto razor wire.. if your dog bites a burglar you as the owner are liable for injuries received… & as proved in a publicised court case, when a burglar was shot & killed whilst committing an act of burglary with an accomplice it was the homeowner who was punished by a jail sentence… &, if you're lucky enough to get a conviction the perpetrator usually pleads their human right to freedom/family life/compensation for injuries received while committing an act of burglary etc, etc, so it's not the lack of support for change in the judicial system, it's the lack of enforcement by the government to adopt / fall in line with the EU system, with priority give to the EUHR side which in turn makes it a criminals charter, there are plenty of people who would love to eke summary justice at the time…but we're not allowed to otherwise we're the ones in the wrong…Thanks to you Tony & Cherie Blair!.

Apologies for the soapbox stance… lost the thread for a mo' there, lets get back to ME.

George.

[WindyParticipant @windy30762]

A friend now passed away restored a Honda 6 motorbike and it was on a small bench.

Under the bench he had a licensed shot gun full of rock salt.

The gun had a trip wire connected to one of those farmer cartridge alarms on the door.

The friend liked a drink and he stressed he never goes into the garage when he had a drink.

A few weeks later he showed me his leg peppered with rock salt he had forgotten to stay out of the garage after a drink.

It caused a bit of a kerfuffle with the police because of noise and smoke but he got away with it.

If it had been a burglar the ending might have been different.

Paul

[mechman48Participant @mechman48]

Exactly what I mean re the burglar…

George.

[Jesse Hancock 1Participant @jessehancock1]

According to my logic Boot Sales are perhaps a big contributer to shed thefts. I haven't been to one for a couple of years now but the Wife and I got into a sort of habitual routine of plodding around boot sales.

If you are a member of the general public and decide to sell at a boot sale you will find that it doesn't take long before you are taking the dregs of your possessions back home since no one wants them. That is your junk is definately junk after all. (Usual disclaimers here apply since I'm not up to speed on this subject)

On the other hand I have seen people set up week after week and sell the same sort of items which on the face of it must be contrary to the law under the designation of boot sale. Markets are different having rent to pay and a hawkers licence to sell I think.

Then there's the times I look at an item and think… what you can't buy a decent pair of shoelaces for that money! It's very tempting but beware because if the law should happen by and tie your recent purchase into a burgalry you could be up for handling and all that emplies or at least you may loose your purchase, confiscated by the police.

Always get registration number off the van and a name and address of the vendor if possible. If Plod pays you a visit then at least you may be able to point him in the righht direction. If the seller is reluctant to comply then do us all a favour and walk away. It's also a good idea to limit the amount of money you intend to spend to how much you can afford to loose. There is no guarantee at these sales so be on your guard.

I lost a complete garage load of tools to theives and there is no doubt in my mind where they took them to get rid of them.

Jesse.

PS: You could always insure your stuff but it is a one way cash drain.

Edited By Jesse Hancock 1 on 13/02/2015 19:25:36

[Neil WyattModerator @neilwyatt]

> If Plod pays you a visit then at least you may be able to point him in the right direction.

"So sir, you were already suspicious that these items were stolen before you bought them?"

Neil

[Chris Pattison 1Participant @chrispattison1]

I heard a story about a bloke's warehouse being broken into time after time. Despite there being an alarm, by the time the coppers arrived, the burglars had always scarpered. His solution to the problem was to buy a war surplus 3 mile air raid siren and installed it under the roof. Next break-in the siren went off (possibly after a short delay to make sure they got inside for the full effect). Result – no more burglaries. Possibly a couple of deaf burglars.

[Ady1Participant @ady1]

His solution to the problem was to buy a war surplus 3 mile air raid siren and installed it under the roof.

I had one of the smaller ones right outside my room at Nautical College for fire drills etc

It could wake the dead if it went off at 4am, (even dead drunk students) and almost made your teeth rattle, you couldn't think or hear a darned thing if it went off

Edited By Ady1 on 27/02/2015 01:10:05

[davidsuffolkParticipant @davidsuffolk]

Not quite in keeping with the original posts but I used to work for a demolition company and kept a burglar alarm klaxon from one job. I have a three storey house and at the time, teenage sons. I put the klaxon in one of the top rooms with a switch downstairs. Worked wonders getting them to get up / come down for meals etc

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