The cheek of McDonalds

[Bill PhinnParticipant @billphinn90025]

Posted by Nicholas Wheeler 1 on 18/10/2022 19:28:20:

And I wonder how Bill justifies what passes for food if he's never tried it?

I was non-committal, Nicholas, on whether it should be described as "food" or "what passes for food" firstly because I'm aware that a worrying number of adults find it repugnant, and secondly because I've never tasted it, so must reserve judgement on the matter.

I must confess I did go into a 麥當勞 once when I was in China, but I only had a cup of tea there. The Chinese menu is very different from the Western one*, from what I could see.

*Or at least it was twenty years ago, when I went.

Edited By Bill Phinn on 18/10/2022 21:43:53

[Ady1Participant @ady1]

This is why they want the Chinese kept out of the 5G market

In 20 years time they are going to know EVERYTHING about EVERYBODY and there's nothing we can do about it

The west, the East and the Far east

It's just like 1984

Oceania, Eurasia and Eastasia

spooky

…and all because you wanted a free burger

Edited By Ady1 on 18/10/2022 23:39:12

[DMBParticipant @dmb]

I regard all similar free offers and suchlike online are simply to obtain your email address. The fact that you take part in whatever it is, indicates that the subject is of particular interest to you and your connected email is quite valuable data which can or could be, be sold on. I therefore don't touch that sort of thing. Yet another example of " what's in it for me versus what's in it for you/ them?"

Edited By DMB on 18/10/2022 23:48:34

[Kiwi BlokeParticipant @kiwibloke62605]

Actually, it’s quite polite of McDonalds to warn you that it’s mining your data. It’s a very, very common exploit by all sorts of web sites, most doing it without making it obvious. Surely everyone knows this. Use the ‘net and mobile ‘phones at your peril!

[Martin ConnellyParticipant @martinconnelly55370]

Dave, your comment on the apple turnover burning you reminds me of a case from my youth. In the early 70s I worked on Saturdays and during school holidays in a department store cafeteria (clearing tables and putting crockery and cutlery through a dishwasher) that had a microwave oven long before they were cheap enough to be in many homes. We used to use it to heat pies, soup, turnovers and the like. A friend who worked in another part of the department store came in on his break. He decided to grab a jam turnover for a quick snack so I suggested warming it in the microwave for 30 seconds. When he took it out he felt the pastry and decided it was not warm and tried another 30 seconds then repeated for a total of 90 seconds. When he bit into it a trickle of boiling and bubbling jam rolled down his chin scalding him quite badly and giving him a nasty blister, he was in a lot of pain but being a teenaged boy I could only laugh and tell him he was told only 30 seconds.

Martin C

[HowiParticipant @howi]

Posted by roy entwistle on 18/10/2022 19:22:25:

I've never been in a McDonalds, Burger King, Wimpys or any other fast food shop

you really need to get out more…….

I suppose it is a snob thing, a bit like saying one has a Myford rather than a crappy Chinese wotsit.

How do you know what you are missing if you have never had one?????

Try telling my grandkids they can have a healthy haloumi wrap instead of a happy meal and the result would put the Ukraine war to shame.

Just saying

[larry phelan 1Participant @larryphelan1]

Glad to see that there some people around who know the difference between real food and crap.

A friend brought one of their offerings home to me one time, I declined to touch it [the smell of it was bad enough ], so he gave it to my dog, who is not too fussy. She took a smell of it, gave me a look which said it all and walked away.

Enough said !

Fish and chips is one thing, but things are something else, and I hate to think just what !

[John Doe 2Participant @johndoe2]

McDonalds claim that the burger is just minced meat, nothing else, and I have no reason to doubt them. The fish burger is a pleasant enough product – just like a big square fish finger. I have probably eaten at MacDonalds about 5 times in my life.

What you have to watch is the sauces, and the bread buns, which contain a lot of sugar. So do the milkshakes, and the cokes, and the apple tart thing.

And the fries have an horrific amount of salt on them. And they add salt to the coke to disguise the huge amount of sugar in those.

Sugar and salt are the real problem; both have serious detrimental effects on our long term health.

As to why people eat there, well it is a very consistent product, not real food but pleasant enough in an 'emergency', although I personally don't indulge. Advertising helps of course, and faced with the archetypal cramped, rough and ready English 'greasy spoon' café (which closes at 5), or a big clean shiny MacDonalds, open 'till 10, many folk choose the latter, (which is often also cheaper).

Many years ago I was in Japan, where the restaurants often have a little display cabinet outside containing plastic models of the food they serve. So customers like me who couldn't speak any Japanese could point to what they wanted. We were really amused to notice that even MacDonalds in Japan have a little display cabinet with models of a big Mac etc !

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Edited By John Doe 2 on 19/10/2022 12:07:26

[Nigel Graham 2Participant @nigelgraham2]

I've found very few of those "archetypical" cafes, perhaps because most have gone out of business. That's thanks not just to competition from the pseudo-fashionable, dreary Americana (and "~o&quot clones; but also to strict hygiene regulations and even more perhaps, the "archetypical" English cafes that are not cramped and rough and ready, are clean and do serve good food at fair prices!

I have used a MacD once, and once only. Up in gimmicks, up in advertising twaddle, up in price, down in value. Ditto with all the US-owned fast-food joints, including Costa[lotta], which was a British company originally.

On the motorways I use the service areas nowadays only for the khazis, whilst trying to ignore the blasted piped music. Their main restaurants I have used in the past do, or did, generally serve reasonably good food but they are costly, and obviously I refuse their Mactuckylottaburger satellites. I take food and drink for the journey, to eat in the car while parked in some out-of-the way corner.

[roy entwistleParticipant @royentwistle24699]

Howi suggests that I should get out more. At 88 and having suffered from heart failure at new year, I only wish I could but it wouldn't be to a McDonalds. As regards to fish and chips, I only eat them inside a chipshop with seating inside, served on crockery. I have never grazed on the street.

[SillyOldDufferModerator @sillyoldduffer]

Well I enjoy an occasional big Mac. Of course it has to be eaten with a suitable wine. I recommend a nice little Pinot Noir, like this 1991 Domaine Leroy Chambertin Grand Cru…

[SteviegtrParticipant @steviegtr]

Posted by SillyOldDuffer on 19/10/2022 17:04:45:

Well I enjoy an occasional big Mac. Of course it has to be eaten with a suitable wine. I recommend a nice little Pinot Noir, like this 1991 Domaine Leroy Chambertin Grand Cru…

I think i'm too old to start saving for a glass of that.

I would have settled for a Choc milk shake if the darn machines were working.

Steve.

[Dave HalfordParticipant @davehalford22513]

osted by Martin Connelly on 19/10/2022 08:38:17:

Dave, your comment on the apple turnover burning you reminds me of a case from my youth. In the early 70s I worked on Saturdays and during school holidays in a department store cafeteria (clearing tables and putting crockery and cutlery through a dishwasher) that had a microwave oven long before they were cheap enough to be in many homes. We used to use it to heat pies, soup, turnovers and the like. A friend who worked in another part of the department store came in on his break. He decided to grab a jam turnover for a quick snack so I suggested warming it in the microwave for 30 seconds. When he took it out he felt the pastry and decided it was not warm and tried another 30 seconds then repeated for a total of 90 seconds. When he bit into it a trickle of boiling and bubbling jam rolled down his chin scalding him quite badly and giving him a nasty blister, he was in a lot of pain but being a teenaged boy I could only laugh and tell him he was told only 30 seconds.

Martin C

I tried to resurrect a donut once, no effect, it stayed shrivelled even when the smoke came out of the jam hole.

Doh!

[Brian GParticipant @briang]

Can I ask what is so cheeky about McDonald's? There doesn't appear to be anything that isn't necessary for a webpage to function and most websites will already have gathered this information before they serve you with a page anyway, they just aren't as up-front about it.

If you read the privacy policy of the model-engineer.co.uk website (link here or at the bottom of the page) you will see almost exactly the same thing, the biggest difference being that McDonalds ask you to agree, probably because the data is analysed in the US, whilst Morton's don't ask (although I'm pretty sure that registering as a forum user requires agreement to the conditions).

The server for every webpage you go to requires address information, otherwise it will not know where to send the information. Similarly, without your computer sending browser and hardware information, the server would be unable to decide whether to deliver a desktop or mobile version of the site, or even whether the browser could display a usable copy of the page.

Because there will be many clients connected to the server at the same time, cookies are required for the server to keep all responses from a single client linked together. For example if the page first asked for which restaurant you visited and then sent you further questions about the service in the restaurant, without a session cookie there would be no way for the server to link the answers to the particular restaurant.

Brian G

[SteviegtrParticipant @steviegtr]

Posted by Brian G on 19/10/2022 20:24:42:

Can I ask what is so cheeky about McDonald's? There doesn't appear to be anything that isn't necessary for a webpage to function and most websites will already have gathered this information before they serve you with a page anyway, they just aren't as up-front about it.

If you read the privacy policy of the model-engineer.co.uk website (link here or at the bottom of the page) you will see almost exactly the same thing, the biggest difference being that McDonalds ask you to agree, probably because the data is analysed in the US, whilst Morton's don't ask (although I'm pretty sure that registering as a forum user requires agreement to the conditions).

The server for every webpage you go to requires address information, otherwise it will not know where to send the information. Similarly, without your computer sending browser and hardware information, the server would be unable to decide whether to deliver a desktop or mobile version of the site, or even whether the browser could display a usable copy of the page.

Because there will be many clients connected to the server at the same time, cookies are required for the server to keep all responses from a single client linked together. For example if the page first asked for which restaurant you visited and then sent you further questions about the service in the restaurant, without a session cookie there would be no way for the server to link the answers to the particular restaurant.

Brian G

You are obviously much younger than me or much more Tech savvy. I am neither of those & it said to me forget the free lunch & that is what i did. Now i sit here starving hungry , but satisfied that i did not let them pry into my P.C of which you say they all do. MMM.

Beans on toast tomorrow then.

Steve.

[Michael GilliganParticipant @michaelgilligan61133]

Steve

I have just gone to the dedicated smg privacy link shown on your receipt.

You may be comforted to know that its 16 pages tell a pretty good story

If pining for the burger you have missed keeps you awake, you might want to read it:

**LINK**

https://www.mcdfoodforthoughts.com/Projects/_globalconfigs/text/pdf/smgprivacypolicy/SMG_PP_en-GB.pdf

MichaelG.

[martin perman 1Participant @martinperman1]

Posted by Bill Phinn on 18/10/2022 18:31:09:

Am I the only person here who's never had food, or what passes for food, at McDonalds?

I also have never eaten their products and will never do so.

Martin P

[HopperParticipant @hopper]

I have eaten plenty of MacDonalds. I can't say that you have missed much. But nothing all that terrible about it either. Probably healthier than fish and chips,but nowhere near as satisfying!

The worst MacDonalds I ate was in Hong Kong. Something definitely got lost in the translation there. Ironic in a city of great food, which we ate every day for several years.

[Neil WyattModerator @neilwyatt]

Posted by Grindstone Cowboy on 18/10/2022 20:30:21:

I do quite like the apple pies.

Rob (playing devil's advocate)

Yep, they are quite nice, but any resemblance between them and an apple pie is purely coincidental.

Neil

[jimmy bParticipant @jimmyb]

Well I do like the occasional McDonalds.

And I'm happy to state that!

Jim

[SteviegtrParticipant @steviegtr]

Well as the thread starter I only thought it fair to put my hand up to all the guys who have never eaten fast food or frequented them.

As a teenager we used to visit the Wimpey burger joint regularly.

Also if anyone remembers the Golden egg group.

Burger king.

KFC.

Pizza hut.

Chinese takeaway.

Indian takeaway.

Valentino's.

Nando's the list goes on. I actually cook a lot at home using fresh ingredients but still go out to these type of places a bit. If i did not my Grandkids would disown me i guess. Only this evening we had 2 senior Fish & chip meals. I thought i was quite normal. But after reading some of the replies here i am not too sure now.

Steve.

[larry phelan 1Participant @larryphelan1]

He who has not eaten fish and chips from a newspaper wrapping ,has not lived !!

[V8EngParticipant @v8eng]

Posted by larry phelan 1 on 22/10/2022 08:34:32:

He who has not eaten fish and chips from a newspaper wrapping ,has not lived !!

[Peter G. ShawParticipant @peterg-shaw75338]

Land & Sea (Fish & Chips) from a newspaper. Now that really does get the old memory cells going. Where I lived 60 or more years ago it was a staple after a Saturday night out. Eaten whilst walking the last half-mile home!

And, of course, just about every village used to have their own F&C shop.

Must stop this reminiscing, it isn't doing me any good.

Peter G. Shaw

[Mike PooleParticipant @mikepoole82104]

I suspect that you need to have had close to too many beers to enjoy an elephants leg kebab but they are most enjoyable. The trouble with the beer munches is that they occur when your judgment is impaired.

Mike

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