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  • #204874
    Neil Wyatt
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      @neilwyatt

      Welcome back

      Neil

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      #204900
      John Olsen
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        @johnolsen79199

        A link was just posted on the RCME site to a video on Youtube about the manufacture of RR Merlin engines. I thought it might be of interest to those following Deans build, although the gear RR use is rather larger than Dean has!

        **LINK**

        Thanks to Jon Harper who posted the original link.

        regards

        John

        #204947
        HomeUse
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          @homeuse

          Hi Dean – Glad to see the update – keep them coming as it is a great project wink

          #208288
          dean clarke 2
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            @deanclarke2

             

            So life it seems is never simple or easy and often fraught with danger and frustration. It seems so also is model engine building or more precisely the use of machine tools! I was working away on the manufacture of the pistons for the v12 when suddenly there was an extreme excess of machine oil in the immediate atmosphere around me. The seals on the quill of the mill decided that it was time to not do anymore sealing, consequently i have spent the last little while stripping the mill machine head down and giving it a good clean and regrease and replaced all the seals. So now it's on with the show. The photos below show the progress to date on the making of the pistons.

            v12 piston blanks.jpg

            v12 pistons stage 1.jpg

            v12 pistons and tooling.jpg

            v12 pistons and fixture.jpg

            Hopefully I will get a bit more time in the shed to complete them this coming week so thats all for now folks

            Cheers

            Dean

            Edited By dean clarke 2 on 18/10/2015 05:42:35

            #208289
            Danny M2Z
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              @dannym2z

              Good to see you back on the job Dean.

              Piston material looks like cast iron – excellent.

              Seeing as how you have made a piston holder for lapping the pistons, and as no two cylinders ever come out precisely identical in dimensions (tenths of thou), I have found that lapping a piston to fit the largest bore first is the way to go.

              If you are a little bit over keen then it might fit one of the other cylinders and by the time that you have all 12 done you shall be quite good at judging the fit.

              Tallow (rendered fat) is very good for testing piston-cylinder fit.

              I shot a large feral pig to obtain my tallow (.444, twice size a Dirty Harry .44 Magnum) but your local butcher might be more useful than my Marlin lever action pig hunting gun.

              Keep up the good work, a lot of people are interested (check the views)

              Regards from Down-Under

              * Danny M *

              #208307
              HomeUse
              Participant
                @homeuse

                This may be a stupid question but is there any reason for some of the pistons having a domed recess in the bottom of the bore and other do not (8 do 4 do not) embarrassed

                Keep up the good work

                #208379
                dean clarke 2
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                  @deanclarke2

                  LOL, Um i would love to have some highly techo reason for the domes but the simple truth is they were pilot bored with a ball nose cutter which i found to be much quicker than the drill and turn option i started with. the pistons are not shown finished, just at the first stage of machining. the next stage is to machine the skirt off on the back side and then mill in the recess for the conrod to sit in. then its onto the non-expanding end of the fixture to be turned to diameter for lapping and turning the crown down to final length. Then its machine the step for the transfer into the crown and finally lapping to fit the liner. Each piston is fitted to its mated liner. I will endevour to have them all done by the end of this coming weekend.

                  Cheers

                  Dean

                  #208432
                  HomeUse
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                    @homeuse

                    Thanks Dean – “I had vision of massive calculations to adjust the weight of each piston embarrassed “ – But I really knew that it was a stupid question.

                    Hope the final lapping goes well

                    Regards Mike

                    #209280
                    dean clarke 2
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                      @deanclarke2

                      Well here we are at the next stage of machining the pistons, The first step in stage two was to cut the step into the piston skirt. There are three reason for this, firstly to allow clearance for the piston at BDC from the center main bearings and secondly to give a sealing skirt over the exhaust ports at TDC.Lastly just for some lightening effect. Next they were set up centered in the mill to machine the conrod little end space into the underside of the piston and then lastly, all pistons were machined at the crown end to the final overall length. Photos below show progress to date.

                      pistons stage 2.jpg

                      This photo shows the setup to machine the conrod little end recess.

                      piston machining 1.jpg

                      Don't ask about the piston on the left………………… Yea lets just not go there OK.

                      The photo below shows the fixture used to turn the crown down to length, which will also be used to turn the diameter to lap to the liner

                      piston crown machined to length.jpg

                      Here are the 12 pistons finished to the end of stage 2. Next is to machine the transfer advance step into the crown, the object of this is to advance the transfer timing so that it opens approx 10 deg's before the exhaust and therefore stays open 10 deg's after the exhaust. The point of this is to allow a small amount of exhaust gas into the transfer port to reduce the loss of fuel mixture out the exhaust on transfer. With approx 25 psi boost pressure there will be plenty of SUPERCHARGE in the combustion chamber on the compression stroke.

                      pistons ready for transfer advance step to be machined.jpg

                      Well that's all folks see you again soon

                      Cheers

                      Dean

                      #212365
                      dean clarke 2
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                        @deanclarke2

                        Well here's next step in the process of fitting up the conrods and pistons. I have managed to fit all the rods to the engine and have finished and lapped 1 piston, this could end up taking a while!!!! maybee i need to just work a bit faster? photos below show the progress to date.

                        conrods fitted (1).jpg

                        conrods fitted (2).jpg

                        conrods fitted (3).jpg

                        sump fitted.jpg

                        That's all for now

                        Dean

                        #212417
                        Ian S C
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                          @iansc

                          Don't rush it, or you'll get finished and have to think of what next, great work Dean.

                          Ian S C

                          #214356
                          dean clarke 2
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                            @deanclarke2

                            lol, halfway through the piston lapping and finishing at the moment, will post photos when all done. Next project is already under way.

                            Cheers for now

                            Dean

                            #214357
                            David Colwill
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                              @davidcolwill19261

                              Dare we ask what it is?

                              Looking good so far. Keep up the good work Dean.

                              Regards.

                              David.

                              #214454
                              dean clarke 2
                              Participant
                                @deanclarke2

                                Well that would be telling now wouldn't it? needless to say i will be doing some drawings before i start this time.lol

                                dean

                                #215754
                                dean clarke 2
                                Participant
                                  @deanclarke2

                                  Well here we are with a bit more progress, slowly but surely I am getting there. Photos below show the advancements to date………………

                                  pistons half way there.jpg

                                  pistons half way there 2.jpg

                                  pistons all but 1.jpg

                                  Yea, all there bar one, just had to be one that didn't want to play the game…………. oh well better make another one.

                                  cheers for now

                                  Dean

                                  #215762
                                  Dave Powell 2
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                                    @davepowell2

                                    What a fascinating project, can't wait to see the next bit!

                                    #215770
                                    Nick_G
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                                      @nick_g

                                      .

                                      Awesome. ………….. Truly awesome. smiley

                                      Nick

                                      #215844
                                      dean clarke 2
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                                        @deanclarke2

                                        Yea me too!!!!!! (can't wait to see the next bit that is,lol)

                                        Thanks for the kind words Nick

                                        Dean

                                        Edited By dean clarke 2 on 10/12/2015 21:10:44

                                        #216363
                                        Howard Lewis
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                                          @howardlewis46836

                                          INCREDIBLE skill and patience!

                                          To ask a stupid question, how do you plumb four carburretors to feed six cylinders per bank?

                                          On naturally aspirated four strokes, two carbs give equal induction pulse intervals, but often three are used.

                                          So are all four outside the blower, feeding mixture into a common gallery to it?

                                          Howard

                                          #216367
                                          dean clarke 2
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                                            @deanclarke2

                                            All four carbs feed mixture into the intake off the blower, then all six crankcase cavities are feed directly from the blower exhaust through six separate ports. each pair of cylinders in the v configuration is running in a sealed off crankcase cavity with the conrods running on a single big end journal. This gives 5 main center bearings and 6 big end journals. As the blower is one single unit there is an evening out of the mixture internally and therefore an even distribution of mixture to the cylinders.

                                            Hope this explains it clearly?

                                            Cheers

                                            Dean

                                            #216501
                                            Skel
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                                              @skel

                                              This is very cool.

                                              #216964
                                              dean clarke 2
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                                                @deanclarke2

                                                SUCCESS AT LAST ,,,,,,,,,,, Finally I have been able to get all the pistons lapped in to the liners and ready to run so to speak YAY what a saga that was but all dun now and it's onto the glow plug inserts/combustion chambers, photos below show progress to date

                                                pistons all finished.jpg

                                                pistons all finished2.jpg

                                                here's the glow inserts/combustion chambers….

                                                glo insert 1.jpg

                                                glo insert combustion chamber.jpg

                                                Cheers for now

                                                Dean

                                                #217525
                                                dean clarke 2
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                                                  @deanclarke2

                                                  Well, having been able to spend a couple more nights in the shed this week I have been able to complete the next stage of the engine build. Tonight saw the completion of the glow inserts/combustion chambers and the final assembly of the cylinder heads. I have also been able to modify the fuel rail and freed up the throttle linkage movement. Photos below show the progress to date……………………….

                                                   

                                                  glow inserts done on odd side.jpg

                                                   

                                                  glow inserts fitted too even side.jpg

                                                   

                                                  carbs all fitted.jpg

                                                   

                                                  Last photo below is the front view of the engine so far, all that remains to be done is the 4 fuel needles and the ignition rail. I think it will then be time to breathe life into the beast (hopefully)

                                                  looking decidedly more business like.jpg

                                                   

                                                  Cheers for now

                                                  Dean

                                                   

                                                  Edited By dean clarke 2 on 23/12/2015 08:40:12

                                                  #217527
                                                  Michael Gilligan
                                                  Participant
                                                    @michaelgilligan61133

                                                    Dean,

                                                    I have run-out of superlatives to express my admiration.

                                                    … Now just looking forward to seeing & hearing it run.

                                                    MichaelG.

                                                    #217542
                                                    Ady1
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                                                      @ady1

                                                      looking forward to seeing & hearing it run

                                                      Don't forget, it's a them run, not an it run because he's going to knock out a flat 12 at the same time, scratch built of course, heck, it gave him something to do

                                                      Edited By Ady1 on 23/12/2015 10:30:41

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