Stuart 10V Build Log – Complete Beginner…

[Martyn Edwards 1Participant @martynedwards1]

Great build blog, what a superb model. Well done!

Can I ask what type/make of paint you used and how was it applied?

[mechman48Participant @mechman48]

Superb finish, nice running at all psi's well done.

George.

[Dr_GMJNParticipant @dr_gmjn]

Thanks both.

The paint was from Mike Rhoades, it’s Meccano Dark Blue enamel (1978). It was applied by airbrush, then baked in the oven (see page 16).

Edited By Dr_GMJN on 17/01/2021 15:32:03

[Tony Wright 1Participant @tonywright1]

Excellent job ,great to see models on the model engineering site !

[Chris ChadwickParticipant @chrischadwick43059]

Over the last two days I have read all 18 pages of this build!

Also being a newbie to ME I have been looking at this engine as my first, and I think this build has convinced me to start here.

The engine you have built is an absolute credit to you. The attention to detail and finish you have achieved is outstanding, and it is your first build.

I hope when I get around to building one (when my milling machine arrives) it is half as good.

Very well done.

Excellent tips, guidance, and advice from all the other contributors too.

[Former MemberParticipant @formermember12892]

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[Dr_GMJNParticipant @dr_gmjn]

Posted by Chris Chadwick on 03/02/2021 09:30:01:

Over the last two days I have read all 18 pages of this build!

Also being a newbie to ME I have been looking at this engine as my first, and I think this build has convinced me to start here.

The engine you have built is an absolute credit to you. The attention to detail and finish you have achieved is outstanding, and it is your first build.

I hope when I get around to building one (when my milling machine arrives) it is half as good.

Very well done.

Excellent tips, guidance, and advice from all the other contributors too.

No problem – glad it was helpful.

[Dr_GMJNParticipant @dr_gmjn]

Posted by br on 03/02/2021 09:51:10:

Chris

The Stuart castings from the Henley period are far superior to those currently available.

Worth looking for a set on ebay .

br

How are they superior? They look OK to me, and machined very easily.

[Former MemberParticipant @formermember12892]

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[Dr_GMJNParticipant @dr_gmjn]

Posted by br on 03/02/2021 11:19:48:

Posted by Dr_GMJN on 03/02/2021 11:08:02:

Posted by br on 03/02/2021 09:51:10:

Chris

The Stuart castings from the Henley period are far superior to those currently available.

Worth looking for a set on ebay .

br

How are they superior? They look OK to me, and machined very easily.

Put a set of each side by side and you would not ask the question.

Forum member e-mailed me yesterday with picture of S50 bed just bought as part of the S50 kit.

Twisted and insufficient machining allowance, only fit for the bin. Stuart sending replacement.

I was well impressed with your thread and the finished engine.

br

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Edited By br on 03/02/2021 11:25:13

Thanks.

Must admit I'd have just sent some photos and given them a call. I'm sure they'd have sent a replacement f.o.c.

Stuart Models seemed very helpful when I bought mine from Doncaster Show a couple of years ago.

I'd heard some stories about the chilled bits being rock hard, and I can see differences in the grain after machining, but really no problem.

Obviously as a beginner I didn't really know what I was doing or what to expect for most of the machining, but ignorance is bliss as they say.

[Former MemberParticipant @formermember12892]

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[Dr_GMJNParticipant @dr_gmjn]

Posted by br on 04/02/2021 08:32:02:

I sat and read through this entire thread last night.

Considering the op was a novice at commencement , I am truly impressed by the quality of the workmanship and the finished engine.

br

Thanks br – much appreciated.

[noel shelleyParticipant @noelshelley55608]

It is a beautiful model of which you should be very proud of !

When Bridport Foundry took over Stuart Models from the fellows in Gurnsey who had been having all the castings subbed out, they invested heavily in the knowledge and technology to produce good quality small iron castings. Not an easy task !

As for the quality from henley, I aquired a fully machined kit for the reversing D10, still in it's vacuum packed wrappings and costing many £100sof pounds. On building it up I found that the engine would not even rotate let alone run,due to the crank pins being out of truth. On showing the engine to Stuart Models and pointing out the problem, I was told "Oh it's got 6 top cylinder cover bolts, it's the old version. Nothing to do with us" ! Drawing their attention to the fact that the company had built up a good name over decades that they were now trading on counted for nothing !

From what I know of it, the current owners are now trying to rebuild that good name. Noel.

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[noel shelleyParticipant @noelshelley55608]

BR.That's a nice model ! I cannot confirm your last statement ! Am I right in thinking it was the sirius engine that was used as the power unit coupled to a small DC generator for air dropping with a small alli boiler to recharge radio batteries during WW2. I Saw what looked like one in a mil green steel box at a rally . A beautiful little unit. Noel.

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[Dr_GMJNParticipant @dr_gmjn]

I thought the 10V looked pretty good, and that I’d done it in a reasonable time etc.

Then today, while visiting the most excellent Maritime Museum in Hamburg, I saw this; a model I’ve seen many times before, but never really with a model engineer’s eye, and I would never have identified the 10V base model had I not built one:

This 10V is much more detailed, and just a tiny fraction of the whole model, which is this (10V circled in green):

Also some Stuart Sirius engines there I think:

I can now appreciate the skill and time that went into this amazing model.

Here are a few others:

[Dr_GMJNParticipant @dr_gmjn]

The museum workshop:

And a tiny fraction of the number of exhibits. These are small scale Wiking models. There must be at least 20 metres of floor to ceiling cases full of these models:

There are hundreds of much larger scale ship models, all meticulously detailed. Thoroughly recommended to anyone remotely interested in ships and/or models. The largest model railway in the world (Miniature Wunderland) and the small but perfectly formed Prototyp car museum are all within about 20 mins of each other in the city.

[HopperParticipant @hopper]

Crikey!!! I didn't see this post before. Wow. That is not just an amazing model, it's mind-boggling. What is the Stuart 10V driving there, condenser cooling water pump? And what is the overall model of? Is it of an actual ship's engine room? Must have been a lifetime's work for somebody. And every tiny bit of it immaculate. In another three lifetimes I might have that much skill and patience.

[DalboyParticipant @dalboy]

I lost count of the Stewart models in this

[Dr_GMJNParticipant @dr_gmjn]

Posted by Hopper on 17/08/2022 13:58:54:

Crikey!!! I didn't see this post before. Wow. That is not just an amazing model, it's mind-boggling. What is the Stuart 10V driving there, condenser cooling water pump? And what is the overall model of? Is it of an actual ship's engine room? Must have been a lifetime's work for somebody. And every tiny bit of it immaculate. In another three lifetimes I might have that much skill and patience.

It is incredible. I’ve only been to a couple of model engineering exhibitions, but I’ve never seen anything like this.

It’s a model of one of the two engines from the “Deutchland” liner. Each engine was 17,000 PS. It won the Blue Ribband for Germany in 1900.

The modified 10V looks like it’s driving a centrifugal pump of some kind. The Sirius engines look like they’re driving electrical generators.

[Dr_GMJNParticipant @dr_gmjn]

Couple of others from the museum here:

Pretty much every ship model is an absolute masterpiece as well – particularly the sailing ships and WW1/WW2 warships:

**LINK**

I’ve visited many times, and am never disappointed.

[Mick B1Participant @mickb1]

Posted by Dr_GMJN on 16/08/2022 19:15:46:

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These are small scale Wiking models. There must be at least 20 metres of floor to ceiling cases full of these models:

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I remember the Wiking models – I had one or two little S-Boots and corvettes as a kid when we went there whilst staying nearby at Laboe for a family holiday.

The models were eyewateringly expensive for kids, but utterly outclassed the British Triang Minic metal ship models.

[noel shelleyParticipant @noelshelley55608]

My limited german seems to indicate that the description of the" Deutschland" engines states that it had Quad expansion engines! Noel.

[Dr_GMJNParticipant @dr_gmjn]

Posted by noel shelley on 17/08/2022 21:36:12:

My limited german seems to indicate that the description of the" Deutschland" engines states that it had Quad expansion engines! Noel.

That’s how I understand it. Not much online about the engines, but the German Wikipedia seems to say they were 6 cylinder engines. The UK Wikipedia doesn’t mention them.

Is the additional small cylinder above the 10V the main cylinder, and the lower one a compound?

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