Strange !!

[Raymond AndersonParticipant @raymondanderson34407]

[Raymond AndersonParticipant @raymondanderson34407]

Recently on the <AAA>, a certain poster appeared and as of 27/9/16 had <X> forum posts and <Y> photos. Now, going back to 28/11/11 he had the same total !! ahh but strange things are afoot, the poster has had numerous posts since then but is still at 136 /3 He also appears to "talk up " a certain poster at every opportunity. Maybe they are related to each other ??

They might really be because the writing style is very similar. Just thought it a bit odd that's all. There are maybe doppelgangers afoot. or i'm cracking up.

Edited By Raymond Anderson on 01/10/2016 12:56:53

Edited By Neil Wyatt on 01/10/2016 13:11:42

[JasonBModerator @jasonb]

PM me the name and I'll have a look

You will find that the post count is totally upto date regardless of the date of the post, if you went back to my first post it would still show a 9000 odd posts. Look back at all your posts on that thread and they will all show 507 posts.

 

Edited By JasonB on 01/10/2016 13:11:57

[Neil WyattModerator @neilwyatt]

Posted by Raymond Anderson on 01/10/2016 12:54:13:

Recently on the thread <AAA>, a certain poster appeared and as of 27/9/16 had <X posts and Y photos> Now, going back to 28/11/11 he had the same total !! ahh but strange things are afoot, the poster has had numerous posts since then but is still at X/Y He also appears to "talk up " a certain poster at every opportunity. Maybe they are related to each other ??

They might really be because the writing style is very similar. Just thought it a bit odd that's all. There are maybe doppelgangers afoot. or i'm cracking up.

The latter, I'm afraid.

The totals for postings and photos are always updated to the latest figure regardless of how old a post is. Check your own posts, you will see they all show the same number of posts and photos.

We have a dim view of 'sock puppets' and have disciplined forum members for using them before so this is a serious accusation.

As an admin I can see members full details even if they don't have a public profile, and it's clear that this is NOT a sock puppet account. I have deleted the numbers you gave as even if you disagree with a poster, they are genuine and should not be single out because they are at odds with your view.

Please think before shooting from the hip.

Neil

[Raymond AndersonParticipant @raymondanderson34407]

Neil / Jason. I never accused anyone only thought it was strange thats all. Yes, I have heard of "sock puppets "as you call them This wasn't an accusation of that, only a observation. So i'm cracking up.

[Neil WyattModerator @neilwyatt]

Give me some credit… saying 'there may be a doppelganger afoot' and 'maybe they are related to each other'?

If you weren't suggesting that one poster may be using another account 'to "talk up " a certain poster at every opportunity', what was I meant to think you were implying?

Neil

[HopperParticipant @hopper]

Posted by Raymond Anderson on 01/10/2016 12:54:13:

or i'm cracking up.

^^^^ This. Taking it all a bit too seriously perhaps?

[SandgrounderParticipant @sandgrounder]

I might as well ask, what is a "sock puppet", I've never heard the expression and a quick look on Google only gave me a pageful of sites telling me how to make Sesame Street lookalikes.

John

[John Stevenson 1Participant @johnstevenson1]

A sock puppet is where a poster has two accounts. Usually done to reply to ones own posts or support ones own issues.
Usually the sign of an overactive ego.

[Michael GilliganParticipant @michaelgilligan61133]

Posted by John Stevenson on 01/10/2016 16:21:14:
A sock puppet is …
Usually the sign of an overactive ego.

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Unlikely to be found around here then

MichaelG.

[SandgrounderParticipant @sandgrounder]

Posted by John Stevenson on 01/10/2016 16:21:14:
A sock puppet is where a poster has two accounts. Usually done to reply to ones own posts or support ones own issues.
Usually the sign of an overactive ego.

Thanks John,

It's not just engineering techniques that one learns on here.

John

[RobboParticipant @robbo]

"If you weren't suggesting that one poster may be using another account 'to "talk up " a certain poster at every opportunity', what was I meant to think you were implying?"

Could I ask, what would be the point of doing this?

[Neil WyattModerator @neilwyatt]

In the past we have had posters who have created a 'sock puppet' account and used it to make posts to draw attention to posts they made or support their position in an a discussion.

Neil

[Anthony KendallParticipant @anthonykendall53479]

Neil, is this not made more difficult for you in that having become a member, it is very difficult to unsubscribe – so you finish up with loads of "odd" people who are unhelpful but they are trapped in.

You could make it easier for them to go?

[Ady1Participant @ady1]

Duplicate accounts are usually referred to as "Ghosts" or ghost accounts on forums

Over the years I saw some amazing achievements, apparently kosher individuals with completely different personalities all being done by a single individual

This was on gambling forums, where a lot of cash and kudos was at stake

Edited By Ady1 on 02/10/2016 11:57:32

[Raymond AndersonParticipant @raymondanderson34407]

Neil , Did you not notice the smiley ? it was not supposed to be taken literally , I just thought it "strange" that they both had very similar prose. also had I known the quirks of the site software re "amount of posts ect " then I would not have thought it strange at all,.{ even though the grammar remains very similar.} [ Now, take note of the smiley]

[Neil WyattModerator @neilwyatt]

Posted by Anthony Kendall on 02/10/2016 09:59:19:

Neil, is this not made more difficult for you in that having become a member, it is very difficult to unsubscribe – so you finish up with loads of "odd" people who are unhelpful but they are trapped in.

You could make it easier for them to go?

Why do the need to 'go' if they are inactive? they may return.

There's a forum I use, but only rarely when I need help with microprocessor issues.

Neil

[BazyleParticipant @bazyle]

What's more they should not be allowed to throw their toys out of the pram and demand that all their posts are removed. On some forums very useful information goes and threads don't make sense.

[Anthony KendallParticipant @anthonykendall53479]

Posted by Neil Wyatt on 02/10/2016 14:35:43:

Posted by Anthony Kendall on 02/10/2016 09:59:19:

Neil, is this not made more difficult for you in that having become a member, it is very difficult to unsubscribe – so you finish up with loads of "odd" people who are unhelpful but they are trapped in.You could make it easier for them to go?

Why do they need to 'go' if they are inactive? they may return.There's a forum I use, but only rarely when I need help with microprocessor issues. Neil

I never mentioned being inactive – I do similar to you on other blogs and not an issue.

There is no advantage in disruptive returning. I find it advantageous to give disruptive people an easy opportunity to leave, and usually they do.

[Nick HulmeParticipant @nickhulme30114]

Posted by Anthony Kendall on 03/10/2016 09:05:52:

There is no advantage in disruptive returning. I find it advantageous to give disruptive people an easy opportunity to leave, and usually they do.

So are ME and MEW "Sending The Boys 'Round" to the domicile of inactive posters and strong-arming a post out of them?

Surely someone wishing to go can simply avoid coming back?

– Nick

[Neil WyattModerator @neilwyatt]

Posted by Anthony Kendall on 03/10/2016 09:05:52:

Posted by Neil Wyatt on 02/10/2016 14:35:43:

Posted by Anthony Kendall on 02/10/2016 09:59:19:

Neil, is this not made more difficult for you in that having become a member, it is very difficult to unsubscribe – so you finish up with loads of "odd" people who are unhelpful but they are trapped in.You could make it easier for them to go?

Why do they need to 'go' if they are inactive? they may return.There's a forum I use, but only rarely when I need help with microprocessor issues. Neil

I never mentioned being inactive – I do similar to you on other blogs and not an issue.

There is no advantage in disruptive returning. I find it advantageous to give disruptive people an easy opportunity to leave, and usually they do.

We can remove disruptive posters and do, but they are almost always spammers.

There is a 'three step' warning process that is rarely needed if they are not 'gross misconduct'.

Neil

[John Stevenson 1Participant @johnstevenson1]

Sock puppets are generated by a complex formula.

Roughly speaking its OCD divided by EGO, multiplied by the number of consecutive days welded to an armchair

[Anthony KendallParticipant @anthonykendall53479]

Posted by Nick Hulme on 03/10/2016 09:31:29:

Posted by Anthony Kendall on 03/10/2016 09:05:52:There is no advantage in disruptive returning. I find it advantageous to give disruptive people an easy opportunity to leave, and usually they do.

So are ME and MEW "Sending The Boys 'Round" to the domicile of inactive posters and strong-arming a post out of them? Surely someone wishing to go can simply avoid coming back?- Nick

Nick, you know very well I was not wanting that, but the point I was making is they are less likely to come back if they are no longer members and there is not an easy mechanism for them to resign.

Neil, why is it you take it as criticism and get so defensive when someone makes a simple, polite suggestion?

[Neil WyattModerator @neilwyatt]

Posted by Anthony Kendall on 04/10/2016 09:29:38:

Neil, why is it you take it as criticism and get so defensive when someone makes a simple, polite suggestion?

Sorry, I hope I am open to criticism, but in this case I really struggled to understand what, or perhaps more accurately, why you were making the suggestion.

I do understand that you would like to help people who choose to leave stay away, but there are two things to bear in mind: First, if they leave as a matter of choice they should be free to return and secondly, it is much better if returners are able to continue to use their original user name.

Neil

[CirclipParticipant @circlip]

Seem to remember a tenacious contributor called sock puppet on HSM

Regards Ian.

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