Stoptober

[DanielParticipant @daniel]

Posted by John Stevenson on 01/11/2016 10:27:47:

Posted by Ady1 on 01/11/2016 09:36:40:

Pure nicotine and propylene glycol only for me, took a while to get used to it but don't even notice now

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So you don't freeze up in winter then ?

PMSL

[Steven VineParticipant @stevenvine79904]

I was often sent round the shop to get sweets, and half ounce of Golden Virginia for my Dad. I was only 8 and was never refused the tobacco!

Started buying 5 Park Drive for myself, for a shilling, at aged 12. I then moved on to 10 No6. After that I started on 20 Senior Service (no filter). Happy days!

Steve

[Barnaby WildeParticipant @barnabywilde70941]

Posted by Steven Vine on 01/11/2016 16:54:10:

I was often sent round the shop to get sweets, and half ounce of Golden Virginia for my Dad. I was only 8 and was never refused the tobacco!

Started buying 5 Park Drive for myself, for a shilling, at aged 12. I then moved on to 10 No6. After that I started on 20 Senior Service (no filter). Happy days!

Steve

There was a vending machine on the wall outside our newsagent that sold 2x Woodbines + 5 match's for 12p. I guess that the height it was placed was the age regulator.

I would have my left testicle surgically removed for a pack of 20 Players No6

[duncan webster 1Participant @duncanwebster1]

If you want to stop, then just stop, don't mess about with substitutes. I did 25 years ago, and if I can anyone can, as I have little will power (that's what my wife says anyway). It's hell for about 4 days, then after about 5 years you realise that even if they found it was all a mistake and was actually good for you you wouldn't go back. And think of all the useful stuff you can buy with the dosh. Other huge bonuses are not having to decorate the house anything like as often, and the ability to be po-faced with those who haven't quit.

[NJHParticipant @njh]

Hi all

I smoked from 17 years of age until about 40. Last year , aged 71, I was diagnosed with bladder cancer and had my bladder removed.

If you smoke GIVE IT UP NOW,!!

Norman

[Barnaby WildeParticipant @barnabywilde70941]

As a lifelong heavy smoker I feel qualified to point out that smoking is a lot more enjoyable than trying to give it up.

This is the first & only reason you should need to quote to justify what we do.

If you need more, perhaps for a particularly stubborn family member, you only need point out that you have never worked with asbestos (yet) & you have never 'dusted' your tuppence with talcum powder ?

Talcum powder is the next BIG one. Expect to hear lot's n lot's about good old Johnson & Johnson in the coming years.

You could also mention the single biggest difference between smokers, non smokers & (spits) ex-smokers . . . which is . . .

"We don't mind if you don't smoke".

[not done it yetParticipant @notdoneityet]

Maybe he obesity will take over from smoking to get the life expectancy down

 

Only in the news today that life expectancy in the US is declining. Being put down to obesity.

 

Edited By not done it yet on 01/11/2016 18:37:54

[Neil WyattModerator @neilwyatt]

Posted by Mick Charity on 01/11/2016 17:59:27:

As a lifelong heavy smoker I feel qualified to point out that smoking is a lot more enjoyable than trying to give it up.

This is the first & only reason you should need to quote to justify what we do.

It's a free world, I would be more than happy for some of my taxes to go towards setting up a smokatorium in the UK

(I was once taken on a shortcut through the Wolverhampton Council smoker's room – it was infinitely worse than that drawing).

[John Stevenson 1Participant @johnstevenson1]

Posted by NJH on 01/11/2016 17:28:32:

Hi all

I smoked from 17 years of age until about 40. Last year , aged 71, I was diagnosed with bladder cancer and had my bladder removed.

If you smoke GIVE IT UP NOW,!!

Norman

Most people put the cigarette in their mouths Norman but I suppose it takes all types.

[Mike PooleParticipant @mikepoole82104]

I had my appendix removed when I was about 17 and was in a ward where a guy was having his second leg amputated due to gangrene caused by smoking related circulation problems, my father died at 59 from smoking related heart and circulation problems, I watched a Deaf School gig where one of the singers carried his oxygen onto stage, he has sadly passed away now. My youngest son is now a vaper he didn't listen to the good advice that it is easier not to start than give up.

Mike

[MikeParticipant @mike89748]

Agree with NJH. After being a 20-30 a day smoker for 50 years, it took a stroke to convince me to give up. Substitutes never worked for me – just had to grit my teeth and go cold turkey. I haven't had a smoke for over four years now, and do I miss it? Almost every day – tobacco is an incredibly addictive drug.

[MWParticipant @mw27036]

I wish i could convince someone i know to give up but, what can you do? All the facts are there, plain as day, it doesn't mean they can't be simply ignored though.

Michael W

[NJHParticipant @njh]

John

That's really rather funny! After a trip to the local hospital this morning, where I and received an "All going well" report, it's nice to end the day with a chuckle!

I do agree with Mike it was very difficult to quit – for the first 3 weeks I felt really ill – it was like having the 'flu – and I could have restarted at any time. I guess that having struggled so hard was useful as from then on any temptation to restart was set against the knowledge of how much harder it would be to stop again. ( Even now I do feel the occasional desire to smoke)

I do accept that it is every individuals choice but, if time travel was possible, I would certainly go back to that first temptation and tell myself not to be so stupid. ……..

Norman

Edited By NJH on 01/11/2016 20:31:25

[Ian WelfordParticipant @ianwelford58739]

Norm

I spend a fair amount of my life telling people the reasons to quit but everyone has the right to choose.

the wisdom of the choice made sometimes surprises but…. Similar arguments for legalizing cannabis, heroin etc ( which actually kill far fewer people each year than either smoking or booze as a matter of interest )

Everyone has to die of something but why anyone would want to increase their chances of ending up brain dead etc escapes me. You can never win the argument but as one of my old professors used to say " you can't win, you can't even break even but you cant quit the game"

glad you conquered the weed and hopefully some more will read , learn and benefit One can but hope.

keep up the good work

Ian

[Gordon Brown 1Participant @gordonbrown1]

Smoking is enjoyable? My father apparently enjoyed smoking all of his adult life but he didn't enjoy the nine agonising months it took him to die of lung and cardiac cancer. Likewise, my sister in law was to a large extent defined by her smoking until she developed lung cancer and a secondary brain tumour that robbed her of her memory, her personality, the abilty to coordinate her limbs, her looks, and eventually her life. Her husband and my brother hasn't developed lung cancer yet, but the five coronaries he has suffered over the last few years means his life is but a shadow of what it could be. I don't suppose the mother of a good friend enjoyed having both legs amputated due to smoking induced Reynauds disease either. Many activities give many of us pleasure, but not many regularly exact such a high price as smoking.

Simple advice, repeated many times by many folk far better informed than I. If you smoke, stop, now, don't do it again. If you don't smoke, don't, ever.

Giving up isn't easy, I smoked for several years until seeing my father slowly – far, far too slowly – dying an agonising death made the decision easy. I stopped, cold, never touched one since but it was about 2 years before the craving finally disappeared. That was forty years ago when there was no help to quit, I would hope it's somewhat easier now.

[DodParticipant @dod]

Get yourself into the local High Dependancy Unit for 2 weeks then another 2 weeks in ordinary ward — worked for me.

[I.M. OUTAHEREParticipant @i-m-outahere]

I take my hat off to anyone who gives up cold turkey and succeeds!

I smoked for a little over twenty years 30 -40 a day but stick a beer in my hand and i would near double that in a night at the pub.

I tried cold turkey twice and lasted a year each time but staying off them was near impossible as everyone i knew smoked so got hooked again and as i had a high nicotine addiction level my brian would not function without them .

Then in 2000 i had a very minor heart attack and the nicotine really affected my heartbeat after that time but being so addicted I couldn't stop – i was really caught between a rock and a hard place !

Once i tried the patches and ended up in hospital with my heart missing beats and the Doctor told me patches were unsuitable so the only thing to do was the cold turkey method .

In 2003 i tried some tablets ( zaiban I believe ) and after three days i was only smoking few a day but the taste in my mouth was terrible , a week later i had stopped completely and couldn't stand the smell of them or anyone that smoked and after 13 yrs i still can't .

It is the biggest regret in my life the day i stuck a smoke in my gob !

Ian

[brickyParticipant @bricky]

I am 70 and when at school it was so easy to smoke.The headmaster used to send me to the local shop for his fags .Us lads would pool our money and I would buy us 4 Domino fags in a paper sleve folded over and taped down with a domino on the front,dose anyone remember them.I stopped smoking at 21 when taking up swimming after a 6 year break I could not swim across the pool without struggling for breath.I stopped immediatly and have never touched one since.

Frank

[Danny M2ZParticipant @dannym2z]

Posted by Roger Williams 2 on 01/11/2016 09:28:42:

Danny m2z, you obviously enjoy killing things then !. Brave of you

So all your meat comes from the supermarket?

Get real!

I only hunt feral animals. The govt. taught me how to shoot straight.

Whenever possible the meat, skin and hair is put to use. Feral dogs, they maim and rip apart lambs and calves here in Australia. Where I live, they now attract a bounty, barely covers the cost of hunting them though.

Feral cats kill many native Australian animals, they require NVG equipment as they are sneaky.

I enjoy it when another pest is eradicated.

As for smoking, my message came from Yul Brynner.

* Danny M *

[Clive HartlandParticipant @clivehartland94829]

All Townies buy meat from the Supermarket, never thinking that the animal has been killed and flensed for consumption. How about Halal meat, it's throat cut as they say a prayer over it ! Wow.!

A Rural living person sees the damage done by Feral animals and wild animals. Lambs being born are grabbed by a Fox and in doing so blind the lamb. Eleven lams blinded in one night out of 80 born! Ever seen a grown man cry as he had to kill those lambs.

Rats, eating through and despoiling stored food, potatoes and grain. You can smell them! Pigeons who need at least 1lb of green stuff to survive a frosty night. There are thousands of them roosting in the woods alongside the fields of cabbage and Oil seed Rape. That fat little rabbit, eats the tops off the beetroot and carrots and ring barks the small trees you plant.

Wild meat is cholesterol free by the way, only domestic animals have cholesterol in them. Beef and Chicken injected with hormones and Antibiotics. Salmonella is rife on farms and even Supermarket chickens wrapped up are contaminated.

One should look at ones own life style before condemning another's way of living, in Kenya I lived off the land, Fish, Guinea Fowl etc, I did swop Impala for Veal at the cattle farm. One was to get rid of the Impala and the other the Farmer wanted a change of meat. The veal was from male calves. that they did not want just like they do not want Cockerels in chicken farming that then become food for pet snakes etc.

Really, get a life lads, a nice roast Pheasant, or a Parrtidge casserole are lovely.

Clive

[CirclipParticipant @circlip]

14 years ago, was told by a very attractive Sarf African Docteress, " Stop smoking and you will have a 50% less chance of having another heart attack. Carry on …. and you will DIE."

Cold turkey after up to 40 a day. You have to want to stop, forget pills and potions and for those who think they are weak willed, I would have been high on that list. Last cig, Tuesday 20th October 2002 at 6.30 pm thinking "one way or another this could be my last cig." Was having my second MI. Only smoked 20 that day, 21st and onward, zilch. At times could still kill one but £10 a packet now? No way.

 And for the self righteous ex-smokers who try to ridicule those who still imbibe, go take a jump, your patronising attitude is a pain up the posterior.

 

Regards Ian.

Edited By Circlip on 02/11/2016 10:11:41

[Anthony KnightsParticipant @anthonyknights16741]

I stopped smoking in 2001 after several failed attempts. I was seriously ill in 2013 with sepsis following chemotherapy. I was told by my doctor that I would probably not have survived if I smoked. I am still here and the money I save by not smoking, helps finance my hobby and trips to the pub.

[MikeParticipant @mike89748]

Clive, yours is one of the most sensible posts I have ever seen on this forum. I'm looking forward to my venison for tonight's dinner. I'll drink a real ale toast to you as I dine!

[KWILParticipant @kwil]

You cannot beat a nice bit of venison or wild boar

Edited By KWIL on 02/11/2016 12:29:16

[Richard S2Participant @richards2]

My best wishes for Hacksaw and anyone who intends to give up the weed and indeed any other methods of 'Oral Solace'.

I started smoking at the age of 14. Wished I hadn't.

The pressures and stresses of my final 32 years of working life seemed to force me to continue, where the smoking, coffee and poor available diet allowed me to endure long Shifts at all hours (up to 17 hours) .

Although only 20 a day and low Tar, I eventually cut down to 50 gms hand rolling tobacco which lasted me over 8 days when I took early retirement in 2006.

Working for myself when I felt like it and enjoying what I did, I finally reached a point one day when I finished maintaining a large Garden in late March 2013, that I had run out of tobacco. I decided to make straight for home without buying any more.

i have not had a cigarette since, nor felt the need for one. I am also not bothered by others that do.

So 47 years and just stopped!. If I can do it, others can also if they wish to.

Good luck and enjoy spending the money on other things.

Edited By Richard S2 on 02/11/2016 13:50:00

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