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  • #85753
    ianj
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      @ians

      Hi . Can any one identify the use for this Starrett micrometer. It has a pointed spindle and a single"V" anvil.

      Regards Ian

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      #22023
      ianj
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        @ians

        Starrett micrometer identity

        #85754
        NJH
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          @njh

          Hi Ian

          Screw thread micrometer I think you will find.

          Cheers

          Norman

          #85755
          MICHAEL WILLIAMS
          Participant
            @michaelwilliams41215

            Yes – screwthread micrometer and it will be specific to one thread system eg Whitworth or ISO.

            The slopes of point and anvil engage the thread flanks .

            MW

            #85762
            ianj
            Participant
              @ians

              Thanks for that.

              I assume its Whitworth as its stamped No. 436-1"

              Ian

              #85774
              Richard Parsons
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                @richardparsons61721

                You cannot make the assumption that it is for Whitworth thread forms. There are a set of 60° threads which are also inch standard. These are the ‘Unified’ threads (UNC/NC, UNF/NF/SAE). These are American.

                Rdgs

                Dick

                #85822
                Nicholas Farr
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                  @nicholasfarr14254

                  Hi Ian J, your micrometer may be a user modified one, as the 436 series have a flat anvil and spindle. Please see scan below.

                  Starrett 436 series

                  Screw thread comparator micrometers are 210 series, and have a conical anvil and spindle. Please see scan below.

                  Starrett 210 series

                  Regards Nick.

                  #85832
                  Ian S C
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                    @iansc

                    Thought it might be used to measure the likes of the wall thickness of tube or similar. Ian S C

                    #85837
                    ianj
                    Participant
                      @ians

                      Hi.

                      Dick. Good point. I've measured the pointed spindle angle and it's 55 degrees.

                      Nick. I also looked on the Starrett web site & their thread mics have a double "V" on the anvil. The one I have looks to be original not modified.

                      Ian. Yes I can see how it could be for that.

                      Regards Ian

                      #85839
                      Ian S C
                      Participant
                        @iansc

                        I would have saidas you that the anvil should haveat least a, as you say double"V", the mic must be at right angles, which would mean that the points should not meet, but be half the thread pitch apart sideways, well thats my idea anyway. Ian S C

                        #85841
                        ianj
                        Participant
                          @ians

                          Now that I look at the anvil "V" more closely, it's actually flat topped so would not bottom in a thread.

                          I can see how it would measure tube wall thickness.

                          Maybe it is a user modified one.

                          Ian

                          #85842
                          MICHAEL WILLIAMS
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                            @michaelwilliams41215

                            A flute or spline micrometer measures across the anvil tips like a normal micrometer .

                            A thread micrometer measures the distance between the bedding down locations of the tapered anvils in the tapered thread flanks . The anvil points do not touch at all . As supplied there would have been a setting piece and a data table .

                            Measure something and see if answer makes sense for either of above .

                            MikeW

                            #85859
                            NJH
                            Participant
                              @njh

                              Hi again Ian

                              A little web search returns this for Starrett screw pitch micrometer. Starrett is an American company hence it uses "real" units of measurement ( inches!) and the 1" refers to the capacity 0 – 1 in. I suspect that the 436 is the range, which appears to be a girder frame type. The one in the link looks like a deluxe version (maybe, using the same reasoning, from  the 575 range?.) There are a few notes in the "product description" which may be of use.

                              So that's another little task you've set us – aint the web wonderful – so many questions – so many answers!

                              Regards

                              Norman

                               

                              Edited By NJH on 26/02/2012 13:06:11

                              Edited By NJH on 26/02/2012 13:08:26

                              Edited By NJH on 26/02/2012 13:09:00

                              #85863
                              ianj
                              Participant
                                @ians

                                Hi Norman.

                                Thanks for that information.

                                The description states:-

                                "This Micrometer has a pointed spindle and a double V-anvil, both shaped to contact the screw thread. The micrometer reading therefore gives the pitch diameter."

                                The anvil on mine has a single flat topped "V" which lines up with the point on the spindle.

                                As MikeW states above that would not measure a thread.

                                I think I'm going a long the line of thinking it's for measuring tube wall thickness or it's a user modified one, although the spindle & anvil do look to be factory produced.

                                Regards Ian

                                #85866
                                NJH
                                Participant
                                  @njh

                                  Well Ian the search continues!

                                  Starrett shows this for measuring tube!

                                  I'm sure you will find a use for it anyway!

                                  Regards

                                  Norman

                                  #85877
                                  Nicholas Farr
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                                    @nicholasfarr14254

                                    Hi, although Starret is an American company, you will find they have factories in many parts of the world, one of which is in Jedburgh Scotland, which is where most Starret tools you find in this country were made, you can find them at http://www.starrett.co.uk and if you go to the downloads tab and scroll down to precision tools catalogue, you will find a MUL-T-ANVIL mic series 220 which will do tube wall thickness. The 436 series was and still is a standard micrometer, as shown in the scan I put in my previous post.

                                    Regards Nick.

                                    #85882
                                    methusala
                                    Participant
                                      @methusala

                                      Hi All, I have a micrometer that I modified for measuring undercuts on turned

                                      components . I m/cnd a 1/16 flat on the anvil, and ground the spindle end to 1/16 dia. x 3/16

                                      long. maybe the above mic was modified for this reason!

                                      hope this helps ,Colin.

                                      #85918
                                      ianj
                                      Participant
                                        @ians

                                        Hi All.

                                        Just emailed Starrett with the photo & description of my micrometer. Will post you with there reply, if any. ( I find some companies are better than others over such questions)

                                        Ian

                                        #85975
                                        ianj
                                        Participant
                                          @ians

                                          crimp micrometer

                                          Well straight from the horses mouth (Starrett) the mystery is solved.

                                          It's a crimp micrometer.

                                          We can all sleep easy to night now.

                                          Regards Ian

                                          #85979
                                          NJH
                                          Participant
                                            @njh

                                            Well Ian so there you are – we are all wrong!

                                            Still a very useful item to have in your tool box – just get out at every opportunity and measure a few crimps!

                                            Cheers

                                            Norman

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