Slow setting Epoxy

[Andrew TinsleyParticipant @andrewtinsley63637]

My local supplier of slow setting epoxy has stopped stocking this item. Any recommendations for a supplier and indeed a good brand to replace my old stuff.

Everyone seems to go for quick setting epoxy, which I have never found as good as the 24 hour variety.

Andrew.

[Andrew TinsleyParticipant @andrewtinsley63637]

[Michael GilliganParticipant @michaelgilligan61133]

I have just put the words Araldite Standard in a Google search

… and would suggest you do the same

MichaelG.

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Edited By Michael Gilligan on 15/01/2023 13:27:44

[Andrew TinsleyParticipant @andrewtinsley63637]

Thanks Michael I was unaware that Araldite Standard was the 24 hour epoxy. Easy when you know that. So fixed up now.

Andrew.

[ZanParticipant @zan]

Slow setting epoxy gives 15.6 m hits….

[Ian PParticipant @ianp]

Posted by Zan on 15/01/2023 18:18:55:

Slow setting epoxy gives 15.6 m hits….

Yes but some of them will be duplicates!

So it will take a little longer to find the one you want

Ian P

[old martParticipant @oldmart]

I found that the standard Araldite, which is the 24 hour paste, is stronger than the fast curing types. Unfortunately it costs about 4 times as much.

[duncan webster 1Participant @duncanwebster1]

It sets faster if you warm it up a bit. Forms nicer fillets as well, and some say it's stronger, but I can't comment on that

[Pete RimmerParticipant @peterimmer30576]

Get some Araldite 2013. Industrial strength.

[Rod RenshawParticipant @rodrenshaw28584]

Old Mart, can that price difference be typical? I have never noticed such a big difference.

A quick look on Amazon (Other suppliers are said to be available ) shows Araldite ( other brands are available ) Standard and Rapid at the same price. Is it possible you are comparing epoxy and "Super glue" which I understand are not the same thing?

Rod

[old martParticipant @oldmart]

I pay about £1.50 for fast epoxy at Proper Job, try getting genuine Araldite that cheap.

[Rod RenshawParticipant @rodrenshaw28584]

Old Mart, Interesting!

Just looked at the Proper Job, Glastonbury, site. They have rapid at £1.50, as you said, but no standard. I wonder if the price difference is between a generic product and I am not saying there is anything wrong with it, and a (the? ) brand leader rather than between Standard and Rapid?

Rod

[David Davies 8Participant @daviddavies8]

BSI (Bob Smith Industries) Epoxy gets good write ups in model railway forums (fora?). Different setting times are available and it’s on sale at Fleabay.
HTH

Dave

[Martin Hamilton 1Participant @martinhamilton1]

Araldite original is still one of the best 24hr epoxies you can buy, dont even bother with the fast setting Araldite it is total rubbish in comparison to the 24hr stuff. Another very good slow setting epoxy & should not be over looked, is JB Weld original.

[Ian PParticipant @ianp]

Posted by Martin Hamilton 1 on 18/01/2023 20:24:26:

Araldite original is still one of the best 24hr epoxies you can buy, dont even bother with the fast setting Araldite it is total rubbish in comparison to the 24hr stuff. Another very good slow setting epoxy & should not be over looked, is JB Weld original.

On seeing the above reference to 'JB Weld Original' I looked online and see there are dozens of different versions of J B Weld (which is something I was not aware of)

I dont have any idea which is the original 'original' but if I was looking for an adhesive I would select the most suitable one for the job in hand, I suspect though that I would eventually end up with a larder full of JB Weld versions I may never need again. My 'original' would be the one I used the first time.

On the forum and in the MEW there are many articles and postings that mention using JB Weld, so which version is being recommended?

Is there one version that suits most workshop purposes? (its a genuine question)

Ian P

[David CauntParticipant @davidcaunt67674]

https://www.hafixs.co.uk/products/profglue/index.html

This is worth considering I've been using this since a visit to Alley Palley over 10 years ago. Not cheap and it does set fairly quickly but I've used it for everything. Do ensure it is drained back before putting the lid on. Found this out the hard way.

Dave

[bernard towersParticipant @bernardtowers37738]

surely that's cyano I thought the thread was epoxy

[samuel heywoodParticipant @samuelheywood23031]

Probably not quite what you're after but J B weld seems to take forever to cure whenever i use it!~ not quite as advertised but worth the curing time wait.

Good stuff.

The car wing mirror has held onto the plastic mount for 6 years & counting, not bad for a temporary repair, bonded to plastic.

[Roderick JenkinsParticipant @roderickjenkins93242]

Posted by Ian P on 18/01/2023 20:56:33:

On the forum and in the MEW there are many articles and postings that mention using JB Weld, so which version is being recommended?

Is there one version that suits most workshop purposes? (its a genuine question)

"JB weld-original cold weld steel reinforced epoxy" is the one you want. If I don't need the extreme heat resistance and grey colour then the original (blue) Araldite is as strong for domestic purposes. Remember that in all gluing situations, good surface preparation gives the best bond. Our adhesive specialists at work used to glue PTFE components together with Araldite. Mind you, they had to etch the surfaces with Hydrfluoric Acid

Rod

[Lee RogersParticipant @leerogers95060]

For those tricky to hold jobs spot tack with cyano and build up the epoxy at leisure. Spare specs repair still good 2 years on.

[Speedy Builder5Participant @speedybuilder5]

If you want a metallic mix, scrape some of the dust from the guards off of your grinder and mix it into the epoxy.

Also agree that the epoxy fast cure doesn't have the strength of the 'original' slow cure.

Bob

[Rod RenshawParticipant @rodrenshaw28584]

+1 for Standard Araldite. When I consider how much time and effort I put into making something, or the potential consequences of a repair failing in service, the relatively small cost of a tube of branded glue seems trivial compared to the confidence I feel that the joint will be as good as I can make it. As Duncan said some posts ago, warming the glue makes it a lot easier to mix, and a really though mix is definitely needed with all epoxies. Warming the completed joint ( on a radiator or similar, not with a blowtorch! ) certainly speeds up the setting time and I think it makes the joint stronger.

I suppose if I used a lot of epoxy I would try different generic types until I found one which was cheaper and in which I had accumulated some confidence, but I am only an occasional user.

Rod

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