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    tony bastick
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      #106007
      tony bastick
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        @tonybastick78554

        I have a Senior M1 milling mc with a std vertical head and when set up to the markinge scribed on the mc it does not cut square to the table but is about 1/2 a degree out of plum. Does anyone know of a quick way to set up a vertical head accuratly?

        #106008
        Phil P
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          You could do a lot worse than get one of these.

          http://www.machine-dro.co.uk/edge-technology-pro-tram-system.html

          Look up "tramming" to tell you a few other methods.

          Phil

          #106011
          Nobby
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            @nobby

            Hi Tony
            Put an accurate square on the quill  from the Machine bed for a start Slapped wrist. !!!!
            Nobby

            Edited By Nobby on 11/12/2012 22:48:40

            #106013
            Harold Hall 1
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              Even with suitable test equipment Tony, making the very minute adjustments necessary can be very tedious. The method shown in photograph 5 here enables very small adjustments to be made easily. In simple terms, the table's traverse is used to push, or pull, the head sideways by very small amounts and with the dial indicator showing the results as it is being done . The text explains it in detail.

              Harold

              #106015
              Harold Hall 1
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                @haroldhall1

                I should have added that the machine standards state that the departure from perpendicular should be no more than 0.025mm over 300mm amounting to a maximum angle of 0.005°. Hence my comments about minute adjustments. Again this is explained in the text.

                Harold

                #106057
                Phil P
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                  @philp

                  This the set up I currently use on my Alexander Mill

                  tramming device.jpg

                  Phil

                  Edited By Phil P on 12/12/2012 13:18:24

                  #106070
                  Sub Mandrel
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                    @submandrel

                    HI Phil,

                    I like that My 'sheet of plate glass' approach is very vulnerable to wee bits of swarf on the mill table.

                    Neil

                    #106093
                    tony bastick
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                      @tonybastick78554

                      Thanks all for your helpfull tips, but Nobby the Senior Mill has no quill or machined surface on the head.Thony

                      #106098
                      Nobby
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                        @nobby

                        Hi Tony
                        Another slapped wriist . When I clocked (Tramming) the Bridgeport etc using a similar set up as Phil but used a slip to run the dti over.
                        I did notice the Nut & split on the head can it be wound down ?
                        Happy Tramming & Xmas
                        Nobby

                        #106109
                        Phil P
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                          @philp

                          Neil

                          The reason my tramming device is stood on three legs, is so it can sit on the mill table spanning the vice. The three legs are simply adjusted to the same length using a micrometer, that ensures the surface is truly parallel to the table.

                          I cannot claim any design rights on this tool, I saw this and realised I could make one in about half an hour.

                          http://www.eztram.com/what.asp

                          Nobby

                          The vertical head does have just over two inches of quill movement.

                          It is an Alexander Master Toolmaker, the UK equivalent of a Deckel FP1

                          http://www.lathes.co.uk/alexander/index.html

                          Phil

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