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    David Bothwell 1
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      Can anyone offer some help on how the Roscoe lubricator on the Greenly "Royal Scot" in three and a half inch gauge? I would like to know how the oil from the lubricator enters the cylinders? What if any the two "chamferred" pipes from the valve level have in relatioton to this lubrication system?

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      David Bothwell 1
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        how it works etc.,

        #105739
        michael howarth 1
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          No expert on these things but I have made a few and I am always astonished that they work. Usually there is a branch from the steam pipe which enters the lubricator, the main steam pipe continuing on to the cylinders. As the steam which enters the lubricator condenses and sinks it displaces a quantity of oil which then flows back along the same pipe where the steam is coming in the opposite direction and thence to the cylinders. How it does this I do not know and having no knowlege or qualification in fluid dynamics I am quite prepared to accept that it must work by magic. The Roscoe is sometimes known as a dead-leg lubricator. It can be proved to be working by two methods. Firstly, if the Roscoe is drained after running for a while, water will drain out usually followed by an oily emulsion. Secondly, after it has been running for a while, if you run the tip of your finger around the rim of the chimney, there will be an oily film left on your finger which can only have come from the lubricator.

          I find that the most difficult part to make for a Roscoe is the drilling of the hole between the steam pipe dead leg and the lubricator body. This hole must be as small as you can get, about 0.015", and I just haven't got enough speed on my kit to drill small holes. Even with a tiny hole, there is a tendency for these lubricators to use their oil up too quickly and I have seen it recommended that a fine piece of wire is inserted into the hole to reduce its diameter even further.

          I hope that I haven,t told you what you know already.

          Mick

          #105758
          David Bothwell 1
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            @davidbothwell1

            Hello Mick,.

            Thanks for the information, no to tellng me something I know, just need some further information regarding the "inlets" for the Royal Scot

            #105762
            John Baguley
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              Hello David,

              There are some photos of a chassis in the Station Road Steam Archive section. The oil pipes from the lubricator appear to connect directly to the steam chest below what I presume are the exhaust pipes.

              **LINK**

              John

              #105763
              David Bothwell 1
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                @davidbothwell1

                Hello John,

                Thanks for the reply, yes I have seen the picture before, just wondered if I had to do some drastic surgery to the cylinders?

                David

                #105774
                michael howarth 1
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                  @michaelhowarth1

                  Having seen the picture, I think that I would go along with John's suggestion that the chamfered pipes are exhaust pipes. At least that is the area where exhaust pipes usually emerge from. They are then usually connected to a T piece and then to the blast nozzle. Again, apologies if you know this already.

                  Mick

                  #105976
                  David Bothwell 1
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                    @davidbothwell1

                    Thanks for the information, just thought it a bit odd tyhat there were chamfered pipes emerging from the valve casing, I will re-check the drawings, they may hold the answers (hopefully) must have been more resourceful when they were published as there are no build details for the adjustment "taps" from the lubricator

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