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  • #231835
    Michael Garbutt 1
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      Hi im looking for a rope knurling tool. Can you buy such a tool ?

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      #24459
      Michael Garbutt 1
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        #231842
        Paul Mawson
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          @paulmawson73959

          Have a look on Clicksprings web site for videos.

          #231844
          Michael Garbutt 1
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            @michaelgarbutt1

            yes that looks to be my only option at the moment. not sure on making the tool though. looks alot of work

            #231923
            Vic
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              @vic

              I have seen them for sale somewhere but they weren't cheap. Lots of stuff on the net about making your own from silver steel suitably hardened and tempered. I think one tutorial I saw used a single point cutter so maybe not too much of a chore to make? Good luck whatever you do.

              #231924
              Vic
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                @vic

                Just found this if it helps. It talks about using a thread tap as a cutting tool.

                **LINK**

                #231926
                JasonB
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                  @jasonb

                  Similar to clicksprings here from an old post on the forum

                  #231937
                  Ed Duffner
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                    Hi Michael,

                    What sort of size and geometry were you thinking of? …and is it for mounting in a lathe, mill or a hand tool as shown in Vic's link? Or do you just require the knurl to mount in an existing tool?

                    Ed.

                    #231988
                    Michael Garbutt 1
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                      @michaelgarbutt1

                      Not really sure. i just like the look of them and thought i could make some nice thumb screws on the lathe

                      #231991
                      Michael Garbutt 1
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                        @michaelgarbutt1

                        Thought i could use one of these to make one. What do you think

                        https://www.cousinsuk.com/product/bearing-cutter-90-af-119257?code=119257010#select

                        #231996
                        Ed Duffner
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                          @edduffner79357

                          Somebody with more experience than myself could probably say for sure but I think those are for cutting angular faces.

                          Knurls are usually formed by pushing the tool into the workpiece as opposed to cutting, although there are cutting type knurls for diamond patterns I believe.

                          #232001
                          Michael Garbutt 1
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                            @michaelgarbutt1

                            Sorry i was referring to using it to make the knuring wheel. As in the click spring video

                            #232011
                            steamdave
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                              @steamdave

                              Yet another source of ways to make a rope knurl is on Frank Ford's site

                              http://www.frets.com/HomeShopTech/Projects/RopeKnurl/ropeknurl.html

                              Lots of other interesting things there as well.

                              Dave
                              The Emerald Isle

                              #232035
                              Circlip
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                                @circlip

                                Hmm. Seems that Frank Ford is another that advocates using the kitchen oven for tempering. Two of us obviously getting it wrong.

                                Regards Ian.

                                #232068
                                Michael Garbutt 1
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                                  @michaelgarbutt1

                                  Ok looks like im gonna be making my own tool to make one. All i need now is an indexer oh and a milling machine.

                                  where did i put that credit card

                                  #232121
                                  Tim Stevens
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                                    The Cousins cutter you linked is intended for cutting the minute 'shelf' that a precious stone sits on in its setting. That is why they list a wide range of sizes, as they need to be the right size for the stone. You could use on as a milling cutter to cut your angled grooves, but the cutter may not last very long, as they are made to cut silver, gold, and platinum. None of these is remotely as hard as tool steel even when it is soft. And I'm sure that any guarantee claim would be thrown out as that is not the purpose of the tool. Sorry.

                                    Regards, Tim

                                    #232355
                                    Michael Garbutt 1
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                                      @michaelgarbutt1

                                      I would only expect it to last the time of cutting the knurling wheel. So i guess its a case of suck it and see. if not ill have a go at making the tool to make the wheel as well. first time for everything

                                      #232393
                                      speelwerk
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                                        @speelwerk

                                        I think this is http://www.zeus-tooling.de/en/products/knurling-wheels/special-knurling-wheels.html what you are looking for, no doubt it will be expensive. Niko.

                                        Edited By speelwerk on 30/03/2016 00:35:07

                                        Edited By speelwerk on 30/03/2016 00:35:20

                                        #254379
                                        Alan Wood 4
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                                          @alanwood4

                                          Hi Michael

                                          A bit late but found your forum note on rope knurls.

                                          AccuTrak in the States make them and their UK agent is

                                          ATM Machine Tools

                                          Unit 4 Molly Millar's Bridge, Wokingham RG41 2WY

                                          +44(0)118 977 0099

                                          They are very expensive ~ GBP200 each.

                                          I have been making various 'old style' Morse keys and have used the knurl on the screws.

                                          I made a knurl using ClickSpring's video and it worked but it was not fine enough for instrument type terminals.

                                          Kind regards

                                          Alan

                                          #254391
                                          Martin Kyte
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                                            @martinkyte99762

                                            When I made my synchronome (well it's nearly finished) I made a knurl by free hobbing a silver steel disc with a (4BA?) tap. The tap was held in the lathe chuck and the end supported in a female centre. The subsequent screw heads did look nice if I say so myself. It's easier than you would think and in brass with small fine knurl you only need the one wheel.

                                            regards Martin

                                            #254569
                                            Ian S C
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                                              There was something about making one using a tap as a hob in either ME, or MEW.

                                              Ian S C

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