RIP record no 24

[Ian ParkinParticipant @ianparkin39383]

Was squeezing a collar onto a lump of steel…guess it was too much of an interference fit..

i will sadly mis this faithful servant perhaps i misused him one time to many

[Ian ParkinParticipant @ianparkin39383]

[Harry WilkesParticipant @harrywilkes58467]

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[Jon LawesParticipant @jonlawes51698]

Using a Vice as a press certainly counts as misuse in my eyes.

Have I done it myself? Of course I have.

[larry phelan 1Participant @larryphelan1]

You,re crying now ? Wait till you see the cost of replacing it !

[larry phelan 1Participant @larryphelan1]

You,re crying now ? Wait till you see the cost of replacing it !

[File HandleParticipant @filehandle]

I love my old record 112, partly because I got it for nothing as it was rusted solid (but Plus gas, patience and a coat of paint soon restored it) and the amount of abuse it can take.

[BazParticipant @baz89810]

Attached to a length of rope it can have a new life as a boat anchor.

[Ady1Participant @ady1]

Must have been a wee bit dodgy anyway, it's usually the leadscrew nut that fails in these high pressure scenarios

[old martParticipant @oldmart]

I count myself lucky to have been left a Record vise on the garage bench when we bought the house 15 years ago. It is a 5 inch steel version which was perfect mechanically after I had milled up a pair of steel jaws and found some 5/16 Cycle threaded countersunk screws for them. The jaws are parallel within 0.002". I don't think there is any way I could break it, and it makes up for my leaving my 4 1/2 Paramo behind when I sold my bungaloo.

[Chris Pearson 1Participant @chrispearson1]

Top tip: don't get in a fight with Ian Parkin – he must be very strong.

[Nicholas FarrParticipant @nicholasfarr14254]

Hi, the Record No. 21 to 25 are cast iron vices fitters' vices, I've seen a few of these getting busted in the same area in my working days, normally by people putting a piece of tube on the handle for extra leverage, and at least two were fairly new. The 112 that File Handle has, is one in the range of at least four sizes, and is an engineers' heavy duty one, and is guaranteed against breakage.

Regards Nick.

[Ian ParkinParticipant @ianparkin39383]

Bill. (Peak4) spotted a good looking vice on facebook reasonably local so a quick 50 mile round trip has got me a record 112 in fairly good condition

well spotted that man !!!

[Martin ConnellyParticipant @martinconnelly55370]

I cracked one in school closing down a rivet on a test piece where I wanted to avoid hammer marks around the rivet.

Martin C

[peak4Participant @peak4]

Posted by Ian Parkin on 02/10/2023 20:38:26:

Bill. (Peak4) spotted a good looking vice on facebook reasonably local so a quick 50 mile round trip has got me a record 112 in fairly good condition

well spotted that man !!!

Excellent, glad it worked out; lay off the spinach.

Bill

[not done it yetParticipant @notdoneityet]

I operated with a 6” Record (?) vise for several years. I got it because it had been broken (cracked) and was going for scrap. I welded two very substantial steel plates to either side and used it until I scrapped it – when I got a good one, with quick release, from the same source.

[Ian ParkinParticipant @ianparkin39383]

This is the broken part I’m sure bolted and welded it would make a good vice for someone

[Nicholas FarrParticipant @nicholasfarr14254]

Hi, I did weld one up many years ago, but it's not an easy job, and is quite a dirty job grind the vees out, and of course there is a certain amount of distortion as well, so they don't always line back up totally correct. I wouldn't consider it worth the effort now.

Regards Nick.

[CirclipParticipant @circlip]

Don't know where me late Dad obtained the 'Paramo No1' vice from, but it's been a loose (Not bench mounted) item I've used for clamping bits, small press and adjustable spanner for the last seventy years.

Was led to believe he brought it back from Canada after being stationed there in 45 but it is clearly (cast in) 'Made in England'

Regards Ian.

Edited By Circlip on 03/10/2023 10:56:57

[Howard LewisParticipant @howardlewis46836]

It may be possible to braze the two parts back together, for moderate use.

I grew up with a vice that had suffered in exactly the same way, that my father had had brazed, and we used it (more carefully )for years, certainly until I left home.

Welding would need the parts to be preheated and cooled slowly. Not impossible, but more difficult

I was lucky, just before retiring found a new Record that had been left boutside and was rusty, at work.

Got it for a song, but the rust cleaned up, and it has served well, despite my abuse, for many years. Checked, and it was a top of the range, so glad that I didn't buy it new!

Howard

[Nicholas FarrParticipant @nicholasfarr14254]

Hi Ian, I too have a Paramo No. 1 vice, which was my late father's, and I can remember it from my very early childhood days. It too has made in England cast in on one side, and hi-duty vice, cast in on the other side. It had a piece busted off the left-hand side of the front end of the moving jaw, but that was easy enough to weld a new piece of cast iron in and dress down to suite, but I did have to replace the jaws, as they were very badly worn, but exact replacements were no longer available, Record ones were the right width, and the hole centres were exactly the same, but they were slightly taller, which meant the holes wouldn't line up vertically, simple solution was to take it to work and get the milling machine man to mill a bit off the shoulder they sit on, this was 25 years or so ago before I had a milling machine and the vice is still in use very often. My father probably bought it from a local ironmongers that he used and favoured, and probably before I was born. Sadly that ironmonger and another good one, no longer exist.

Regards Nick.

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