Record 413 Drill vice query

[File HandleParticipant @filehandle]

I treated my pillar drill to an early Christmas present, a new (to me) Record 413 vice.
I am curious why the front is machined? My only thought is that it is to allow it to be aligned with say an angle plate bolted to the table?
cheers
Keith

[DiogenesParticipant @diogenes]

It’s so you can stand it on a shelf upright and it doesn’t take up so much room.

[Nicholas FarrParticipant @nicholasfarr14254]

Hi, these vices are machined on the end so they can be used in the vertical position.

Regards Nick.

[Nicholas Farr]

On Nicholas Farr Said:

Hi, these vices are machined on the end so they can be used in the vertical position.

Regards Nick.

Thanks Nick. I assume that you would need to use an angle plate to bolt it in position, presumably more for milling use than use on a pillar drill. I thought I got mine cheap until I saw those prices. Having used it a bit now I do like it, but had to get used to pulling the moving jaw back, a slight disadvantage. It does seem well made, and although second hand was sold as unused, certainly looks like that could be true. certainly a big improvement on the cheap one I previously used.
Being able to add images seamlessly is a big improvement, plus the speed seems better today.

[Nicholas FarrParticipant @nicholasfarr14254]

Hi File Handle, yes you would have to attach your vice to an angle plate to use it in the vertical position, although you could probably use a tilting table that will swing to 90 degrees to the milling table.

The prices shown in the scan, are from 1964, and the 413 was about a quarter of my father’s basic take home pay each week back then.

Regards Nick.

[Martin King 2Participant @martinking2]

Hi All,

We have had quite a few of these RECORD vices, 412, 413 over the years and they are very sought after indeed if in good non-divoted shape.

The last one made £37 plus postage on our EBay site, about average for a nice one.

The other vary wanted one is THE NIPPY.

Cheers, Martin

[File HandleParticipant @filehandle]

Martin
I did check the prices online (new and used) online before I bought it. It was described as unused, couldn’t see any reason not to believe that. Bought from an “antiques centre” . I have bought several tools from there. Prefer to see what I am buying, and typically cheaper than online.

[peak4Participant @peak4]

Slight diversion from your topic, but how did you manage to insert the original photo as a thumbnail aligned to the right of your text.

Bill

[File HandleParticipant @filehandle]

I just used insert image

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Just edited it to move the image below the text and aligned right

Return moved it below text

Click on image and use the align tool to move the image

 

[File HandleParticipant @filehandle]

Opps
I seem to have broken the HTML code above.

Edited above to remove the broken code and align left, but not playing ball – will try again

 

[File HandleParticipant @filehandle]

Inserting image

 

[File Handle]

On File Handle Said:

Inserting image

 

Thanks, someone must have mended that problem but not mentioned it.
I experimented extensively a little while ago, but failed completely.
Cheers
Bill

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