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    Frances IoM
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      @francesiom58905

      the NOx cylinder query prompts me to ask if there is any safe way to re-use the rams (+ tube) from gas springs – I have a few pairs of such, some were ‘freebies’ unbid-for that were bundled into lots I had an interest in – they are car parts ? for hatchbacks but too big + powerful for any use I can forsee

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      Frances IoM
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        #624413
        peak4
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          @peak4

          They are regularly used as a tensioner, rather than a coil spring, by folks who are building belt grinders.
          The machines are often used for knifemaking and frequently feature a 2"x72" belt.

          If I'm re-using something similar, normally a car shock absorber/damper, I just cut into the outer cylinder with a hacksaw, which releases the pressurised gas in a reasonably controlled manner.
          Just keep it pointing downwards and cut the uphill bit, to save getting showered in the oily contents.

          As an aside, if you ever get involved in dealing with a car fire, keep out of the line of fire behind the car, as I'm informed, by those who practice this stuff professionally, that they can explode and shoot out the ram like a crossbow bolt.

          Bill

          #624420
          Pete Rimmer
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            @peterimmer30576

            The rods are great for all kinds of stuff. I have used them for DTI mount arms.

            Office chair rams are another great source of thick walled steel tubing with ground finish. You can turn off the end of the outer tube to release them but be damn sure that they are no longer charged with gas.

            #624422
            Anonymous

              This type of device can be used as a counterbalance for the (moving) head of small mills.

              #624536
              old mart
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                @oldmart

                I have some surplace ones, and agree with Peter, that they have potential with assistance with mill heads, if the overall lengths and stroke would match. I have thoughts about the knee of the Tom Senior light vertical which needs the longer handle fitted when the heavy rotary table is fitted. I bought a gas strut for replacing the seat strut on my Suzuki 400 Burgman, and after googling, found a firm which makes custom lengths, strokes, force and end fittings at very reasonable prices. I checked the force on the existing inadequate strut on the bathroom scales using a pad to protect the glass top and added 25% to custom strut power, and it is a great improvement.

                #624694
                old mart
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                  @oldmart

                  If a custom made strut is needed, I have found the firm who supplied my seat strut exactly the size I wanted.

                  **LINK**

                  #624700
                  Michael Gilligan
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                    @michaelgilligan61133
                    Posted by old mart on 12/12/2022 18:10:15:

                    If a custom made strut is needed, I have found the firm who supplied my seat strut exactly the size I wanted.

                    **LINK**

                    .

                    That’s useful to know yes

                    … duly bookmarked.

                    MichaelG.

                    #624707
                    Nick Wheeler
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                      @nickwheeler

                      You can also buy them too strong, and lower the pressure until you get what you need.

                      #624734
                      Ebenezer Good
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                        @ebenezergood76202

                        I ordered some from Ebay for my jeeps rear hatch, they are a lot more powerful than the originals, it now reminds me of Arkwright's till!

                        I've collected a few old shock absorbers with plans to use them for something but all I do is move them out of the way every few years.

                        #624750
                        Joseph Noci 1
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                          Posted by Ebenezer Good on 12/12/2022 22:40:34:

                          I've collected a few old shock absorbers with plans to use them for something but all I do is move them out of the way every few years.

                          Thought I was alone in that…

                          #624751
                          Grindstone Cowboy
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                            @grindstonecowboy

                            Something I noted today, as the rear hatch of my car closed onto my head, is that they ain't as powerful in very cold weather.

                            Rob

                            #624759
                            Nick Wheeler
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                              @nickwheeler
                              Posted by Ebenezer Good on 12/12/2022 22:40:34:

                              I ordered some from Ebay for my jeeps rear hatch, they are a lot more powerful than the originals, it now reminds me of Arkwright's till!

                              I've collected a few old shock absorbers with plans to use them for something but all I do is move them out of the way every few years.

                              That's the difference between new and knackered ones. You get the same effect with the shock absorbers; even ones that pass the 'bounce test' can be doing very little.

                              I have the rods from two pairs of front struts that look useful. They're 20mm hard chrome plated rods about 400mm long, and were free. One of the potential jobs is to make a taper turning attachment for my WM250

                              #624785
                              Douglas Johnston
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                                Posted by Pete Rimmer on 11/12/2022 01:15:10:

                                The rods are great for all kinds of stuff. I have used them for DTI mount arms.

                                Office chair rams are another great source of thick walled steel tubing with ground finish. You can turn off the end of the outer tube to release them but be damn sure that they are no longer charged with gas.

                                How does one discharge the gas in order to cut them up safely, or do you just set the horizontal bandsaw up and run like hell ?

                                Doug

                                #624788
                                Frances IoM
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                                  @francesiom58905

                                  “How does one discharge the gas in order to cut them up safely, or do you just set the horizontal bandsaw up and run like hell ?” that’s what I should have asked directly as the rods look too useful to sit around taking up space.

                                  #624797
                                  Nick Wheeler
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                                    @nickwheeler
                                    Posted by Frances IoM on 13/12/2022 12:02:43:
                                    "How does one discharge the gas in order to cut them up safely, or do you just set the horizontal bandsaw up and run like hell ?" that's what I should have asked directly as the rods look too useful to sit around taking up space.

                                    Chop the end off the cylinder with an angle grinder. There isn't much gas and/or oil in a good one, and tired ones are usually anti-climactic

                                    But, ensure you're wearing goggles, and don't stand in line with the cut. If you're breaking down bigger gas springs, like the macpherson struts I mentioned, drill a small hole first.

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