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    JasonB
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      @jasonb

      I think I would make up a figure 8 template or maybe just a half link in an E shape then take a sheet of 50mm celotex or similar PU insulation and draw as many links as you can. Cut them out and then rough chamfer the edges with a craft knife. Finally some coarse 40g sandpaper will round off the edges. Paint with black emulsion

      If you did twice as many half links as full then it makes it easier to assemble the chain

      Edited By JasonB on 05/03/2023 16:22:42

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      #636262
      not done it yet
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        @notdoneityet

        3-D printing might be a serious project? Very low infill requirement, but may still prove expensive in time and materials?

        #636263
        vic newey
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          @vicnewey60017

          As someone who did such things for a living for TV & film I would suggest that you consider foam pipe lagging either whole or bandsawed in half

          #636267
          Baldric
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            @baldric

            I saw the chains used on a film at Didcot, I went and lifted them, they were made of a foam like material, it was tempting to swap them.with real ones from the 50t hoist, but that would have required a crane.

            As a BBC studio engineer, I would leave at 11pm from one show & return at 9am the next day to see a different set or for a sitcom about 5 sets. If the parts are not to be looked at closely, then don't put in to much detail that no one will see. The change to high definition TV caused issues with sets where imperfections could be seen.

            Baldric.

            #636273
            george baker 1
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              @georgebaker1

              Hi

              The link was wrought and the cross piece was cast. The link is in tension under load and the cast piece under compression.

              George

              #636275
              Michael Gilligan
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                @michaelgilligan61133

                Thanks, George … I didn’t know that.

                Must have been an interesting assembly job !!

                MichaelG.

                Edited By Michael Gilligan on 05/03/2023 17:52:41

                #636277
                ega
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                  @ega
                  Posted by george baker 1 on 05/03/2023 17:47:21:

                  Hi

                  The link was wrought and the cross piece was cast. The link is in tension under load and the cast piece under compression.

                  George

                  Sounds like an ideal use of materials.

                  Does the cast piece just sit there or is it joined in some way to the link?

                  #636333
                  John McNamara
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                    @johnmcnamara74883

                    Hi

                    Hingley and sons

                    Surely a member can CNC rout a foam mold or copy?

                    This image defines the scale.
                    5 to 6inches thick
                    **LINK**

                    #636336
                    Michael Gilligan
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                      @michaelgilligan61133

                      Posted by John McNamara on 06/03/2023 02:07:25:

                      .

                      This image defines the scale.
                      5 to 6inches thick
                      **LINK**

                      .

                      Unfortunately, John … that link appears to be dead

                      MichaelG.

                      #636337
                      JasonB
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                        @jasonb

                        Works fine for me.

                        #636338
                        Michael Gilligan
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                          @michaelgilligan61133

                          I give up sad

                          MichaelG.

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                          83c36a49-ff2e-4921-bff2-d103b50fecb1.jpeg

                          Edited By Michael Gilligan on 06/03/2023 08:04:28

                          #636340
                          vic francis
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                            @vicfrancis
                            Posted by Ady1 on 05/03/2023 00:21:36:

                            spray painted animal balloons sounds the easiest route

                            Hi Chris, well the above if it was a comedy productions…. and they deflate or bang under the lights 😁 personally make 2 halves ( of the chain link) a , c section closed shape including half of the bar only , then its a two part plaster mould box,which is , filled with builders poly foam… The ends at trimmed off when dry, then it's a gluing up job!the links can be assembled correctly… Inserting the other link before joining the two!..Use plenty of release agent in the plaster mould! Important.Silicon rubber mould is best but expensive for volume…I would clamp the plaster mould as well.

                            Vic

                            Ps alternatively just put your superb engine on the stage , coupled to a threshing machine / diorama, and some country girls…

                            #636341
                            roy entwistle
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                              @royentwistle24699

                              Michael. That's what I got.

                              Roy

                              #636342
                              Grindstone Cowboy
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                                @grindstonecowboy

                                Edit – just realised the irony of using the word 'link' in this instance smiley

                                Possibly not working for Michael and Roy as they are not logged into Facebook? I don't know, but here's the picture from the link.

                                titanic chain.jpg

                                Rob

                                Edited By Grindstone Cowboy on 06/03/2023 09:18:39

                                #636349
                                Michael Gilligan
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                                  @michaelgilligan61133

                                  Thanks for sharing that, Rob … much appreciated yes

                                  Your explanation seems entirely reasonable

                                  [except that the Facebook error page speaks with forked-tongue]
                                  .

                                  I can currently think of nothing that would persuade me to ‘belong to’ Facebook.

                                  MichaelG.

                                  #636365
                                  John McNamara
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                                    @johnmcnamara74883

                                    I Like you Michael avoided Facebook until recently.
                                    An no you will not find my family photos there. However I am a member of the Fusion 360, the Syil users and owners groups I am not an owner yet, also a local one the "Dandenong Ranges Community", where I live, group and a few special interest Groups.
                                    I find the special interest groups interesting. I just don't participate in the social stuff.

                                    #636370
                                    JasonB
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                                      @jasonb

                                      I suppose the ability to open useful links may persuade some to join.smiley

                                      Like John I just frequent a few groups that are of interest to me such as Alyn Foundry, Stuart Models, Wayne Grennings Models and restorations and a few others. Really no different to what I see posted here, well actually a lot more actual model making and engine restoration than here.

                                      Edited By JasonB on 06/03/2023 11:45:13

                                      #636374
                                      ega
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                                        @ega

                                        Rob:

                                        Thanks for making the photo available to the rest of us!

                                        Presumably, only the middle link has a cross member because the chain is just three links long.

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