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  • #3150
    Stewart Hart
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      #100858
      Stewart Hart
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        @stewarthart90345

        Just started building a model of a Dake engine

        Dake engines was a very sucesful US design, It has a very novel twin square cylinder design working inside each other, being none dead centre it has almost instant reversing, hence it was used for power steering in ship and large American built traction engines, it could be run on steam or air and was also used in hoyst and ship deriks

        A few pics

        daketiff%201a.jpg

        dake 3.jpg

        Inner piston complete

        131_2215.jpg

        Stew

        #100946
        NJH
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          @njh

          That looks interesting Stewart. Do you intend to give a blow by blow account like Jason's recent thread?

          Regards

          Norman

          #100951
          Stewart Hart
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            @stewarthart90345

            Thanks for your interest Norman

            I'll probably write it up for ME, but I will post some progress pics her

            Things are progressing slowly at the moment as I've other projects on the go. Stew

            #100978
            David Clark 13
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              @davidclark13

              Hi Stewart

              That looks very interesting.

              Series is welcome.

              regards David

              #101243
              Stewart Hart
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                @stewarthart90345

                Cheers David

                Made some more progress with the outer piston 131_2279.jpg

                131_2299.jpg

                Stew

                #101260
                Sub Mandrel
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                  @submandrel

                  Hi Stew,

                  That's certainly different!

                  Neil

                  #101626
                  Stewart Hart
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                    @stewarthart90345

                    Yes it certainly is different Neil, it calls for some interesting set ups, I don't realy know how this one will end up, but you have to try to find out.

                    Got the back plate finished off apart from a bit of tarting up.

                    img_3763.jpg

                    Stew

                    #102951
                    Stewart Hart
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                      @stewarthart90345

                      Got a few more bits made. I've reached that stage in the build when self doubt starts to kick in, will it work is this bit Ok etc etc and things have advanced where all you can do is "keep calm and carry on"

                      Outer cylinder

                      131_2417.jpg

                      Assembled parts so far made.

                      131_2421.jpg

                      #103044
                      Stewart Hart
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                        @stewarthart90345

                        dcp_1520a.jpg

                        Came across this picture of a Dake engine being used to power a winch, I think this set up would add some interest to the model if only I could drop on some geers.

                        Stew

                        #103057
                        Ady1
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                          @ady1

                          A bit about them here including an inside view of the mechanism

                           

                          Edited By Ady1 on 07/11/2012 12:24:17

                          #103076
                          Stewart Hart
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                            @stewarthart90345

                            Thanks for the input Andy.

                            The more I look into the history of the Dake the more fasinating it becomes, it was certainly put to use in a wide range of aplication, apparently they made over 10,000 engines as part of the war effort and were extensivly used in Liberty Ships and the Big Tank Landing Craft.

                            Came across a pic of this rusting hulk apparently it a Dake Engine powered fork lift truck.

                            dake%20forklift%201.jpg

                            #103151
                            Stewart Hart
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                              @stewarthart90345

                              Got the recesses machined in the cylinder for the inner piston flange apparently this helps with sealing of the ports.

                              131_2449.jpg

                              #103285
                              Stewart Hart
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                                @stewarthart90345

                                Made the crank yesterday and I was thinking only the fly to go and we can give it a try, then I remembered I had a spare machined up 4" fly wheel, why not give it a go.

                                And it works smiley which is a big releaf as the valve geometery was very much based on guess work..

                                I'll post a video some time over the week end

                                A happy Stew

                                #103289
                                Stewart Hart
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                                  @stewarthart90345
                                  #103292
                                  Terryd
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                                    Hi Stew,
                                     
                                     
                                    Thanks, I really enjoyed that so I hope that you don't mind me putting your success up here, If you do I'll remove it if you get in quickly so that I can edit the post.
                                     
                                     
                                     
                                     
                                    Best regards
                                     
                                    Terry

                                    Edited By Terryd on 10/11/2012 12:26:54

                                    #103293
                                    Ady1
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                                      @ady1

                                      oops…

                                      Edited By Ady1 on 10/11/2012 12:31:12

                                      #103294
                                      Stewart Hart
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                                        @stewarthart90345

                                        Thanks Terry

                                        I just can't figure out how to do that

                                        Stew

                                        #103332
                                        Sub Mandrel
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                                          @submandrel

                                          Hi Stew,

                                          Someone who can find a weirder engine than Anthony Mount!

                                          Could you do a video of it being rotated by hand with the cover off?

                                          Neil

                                          #103341
                                          Stewart Hart
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                                            @stewarthart90345

                                            Hi Neil

                                            I'll see what I can do tomorrow

                                            Stew

                                            #103452
                                            Stewart Hart
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                                              @stewarthart90345

                                              Thanks Guys

                                              By popular request her's the vid of the innards, hope you don't think my explination is too clumsy.

                                              Stew

                                              Edited By Stewart Hart on 12/11/2012 11:06:10

                                              Edited By Stewart Hart on 12/11/2012 11:07:27

                                              #103454
                                              Ian P
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                                                @ianp

                                                Stewart

                                                Nicely made, well done, your explanation and demonstration video is really good too.

                                                I have been following the thread and it only now I realise that its a motor and not actually an engine (I'm not trying to be pedantic) but before I knew I kept looking to see where the spark plug was!

                                                I see the original was made by the 'Dake Engine manufacturing company' so maybe they made engines as well.

                                                I can see that it is probably not very efficient on air but on oil it would be good.

                                                Ian

                                                #104155
                                                Stewart Hart
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                                                  @stewarthart90345

                                                  img_3842.jpg

                                                  Made some progress on the two way valve, still needs a bit more sculpting

                                                  Stew

                                                  #104157
                                                  magpie
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                                                    @magpie

                                                    Nice one Stew ! Some of those valve bits look like bits on my fibre optic clock.!!!!!!

                                                    Cheers Derek

                                                    #104574
                                                    Stewart Hart
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                                                      @stewarthart90345

                                                      Cheers Dek I'll try and nip round for a natter.

                                                      Made the pully this week from a bit of 4 1/2" steel tube and 5mm plate.

                                                      img_3888.jpg

                                                      img_3884.jpg

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