Pop-up for digital.

[Gone AwayParticipant @goneaway]

Given the ways companies find these days to “target” their advertising ever more accurately, it would be nice if someone could use the process in reverse and have ads such as this not pop up (even once)  to people who are already subscribed.

[John ShepherdParticipant @johnshepherd38883]

 

Just to add my vote to the others against this annoying feature – Once I can tolerate – every time I read a post no way.>>

 

Edited By John Shepherd 1 on 24/04/2010 19:16:48

Edited By John Shepherd 1 on 24/04/2010 19:18:22

[chris stephensParticipant @chrisstephens63393]

Hi Guys,

I do not see the logic in having pop ups. The marketing people must realise that they annoy their potential customers, or are they even thicker than i gave them credit for? As for the IT children, who create them, there is no logic for having them either because, to their way of thinking, they assume that every body knows how to block the damn things from popping up.

I have had to resort to a different browser to avoid the latest annoyance on this site, which would be fine except that I have to log-in more often, despite clicking the “remember me” button. The spell checker does not work with this browser either, so if sime spill mistooks ockur, pliss figive.

You can take it that, I am adding my vote to the others against these marketing ploys.

chriStephens

[Peter G. ShawParticipant @peterg-shaw75338]

Sid,

 

Nice idea, but it simply won’t work. You see, I, and I expect a number of other people as well, will access the site, have a read, and then only logon if they have something to say. The problem is that whilst the site may know how many people are reading, there is no way that the site can know who is reading until the reader logs on.

 

Regards,

 

Peter G. Shaw

 

 

[NJHParticipant @njh]

Let’s hope that the Marketing guru’s look at this thread and note the unanimous sentiments expressed. I feel that David is sympathetic to our opinions and will probably argue the case against the pop-up. In case any additional information can assist to make the point I offer my own attitude.:-

1. I accept that there is a cost to the operation of the site and this must be recovered in some way.

2. There is already extensive advertising in the sidebars which I find acceptable.

 Due to these adverts I have recently purchased ;-

DVD of “The story  behind the models”  ( Well I just had to view the magic of Cherry Hill – how can someone so quiet and modest have the commitment, skill and dedication to produce these gems?)

Tangential Tool holder from Eccentric Engineering  Superb! ( I know I should have made one but if I keep making tools I will never finish my “In Progress” models!)

Materials from M-Machine for my current stationary engine project.

So then some return for ME in support of operating costs

3. I will not buy ANYTHING from a “pop -up” by either external or internal advertisers.

 

So to those who think it a good idea to “Thrust these rude and intrusive pop-ups in our faces” please ponder on this:- This site is a really valuable resource of information and a good format for posting opinions and ideas. David has worked really hard to get this off the ground – please don’t undo all his good work by alienating the readers. If you do I will certainly not be making purchases in the future and maybe others will feel the same.

Edited By NJH on 25/04/2010 15:34:05

Edited By NJH on 25/04/2010 15:36:43

[David Clark 13Participant @davidclark13]

Hi There

I have asked the management about this.

They now know people are not happy.

regards David

 

Edited By Kelvin Barber on 26/04/2010 16:13:17

[chris stephensParticipant @chrisstephens63393]

Hi David,

Well, I think that rates a vote of thanks from your loyal viewers. Even if they don’t take a blind bit of notice at MHS, at least you tried.

chriStephens

[Peter G. ShawParticipant @peterg-shaw75338]

Second that Chris.

 

Many thanks David.

 

Peter G. Shaw

[David Clark 13Participant @davidclark13]

Hi There

Hopefully no more popups after tomorrow.

Management has seen sense.

 

regards david

 

[TerrydParticipant @terryd72465]

Thanks and god bless you David.

 

Best regards

 

Terry

[keithmartParticipant @keithmart]

[keithmartParticipant @keithmart]

And many thanks from me as well

regards 

keith

Leeds UK

[NJHParticipant @njh]

Well done David – situation saved- back to business as usual!

[dcostaParticipant @dcosta]

And many thanks from me as well.

Best regards 

J. M. Dias Costa

[Gone AwayParticipant @goneaway]

Posted by Peter G. Shaw on 25/04/2010 13:20:44:

Sid,

 

Nice idea, but it simply won’t work. You see, I, and I expect a number of other people as well, will access the site, have a read, and then only logon if they have something to say. The problem is that whilst the site may know how many people are reading, there is no way that the site can know who is reading until the reader logs on.

Peter, I sort of agree (but see below)  but I think you mean “simply won’t work for those that don’t stay logged in”. Certainly, if you are not logged in, you are anonymous and the system cannot possibly know whether or not you are already subscribed to the digital edition. So if the pop-up is going to be implemented at all, you will get it for sure.

 

But that doesn’t mean that the same situation should be forced on those others, who (like me)  remain logged on from session to session. What I’m suggesting will work for those people – the system can detect whether they are already subscribed to the digital edition and suppress the irrelevant (and therefore doubly annoying) pop-up.

 

Having said that though, strictly, you don’t actually need to be logged in – or even have a login created. All it needs is for the site to set – and for you to accept – a (persistent) cookie the first time they present the pop-up in order to prevent future pop-ups for the lifetime of the cookie. Many websites do this to avoid alienation of potential customers.

 I’d venture to suggest that if this had been done here, this thread wouldn’t exist.

 

 Somewhat academic now of course, based on David’s comments.

Edited By Sid Herbage on 26/04/2010 01:38:46

Edited By Sid Herbage on 26/04/2010 01:41:38

[Gone AwayParticipant @goneaway]

Posted by NJH on 25/04/2010 15:30:44:

2. There is already extensive advertising in the sidebars which I find acceptable.

 

 

I don’t.

 

I would find them acceptable but for the animated ads which, to me, are too distracting when reading the forums. It’s another example of “in your face” advertising that will alienate at least some potential customers. This is easier to solve though than the pop-up problem – I keep a piece of cardboard handy to hang down the right side of my monitor to cover them up.

 

Of course, I don’t see the other ads either ….. but needs must.

[Kelvin BarberParticipant @kelvinbarber70274]

The pop-up advert will be removed today so those who have been annoyed by this can now breathe a sigh of relief!

[NJHParticipant @njh]

Ok Sid – I modify my post to ” I just about find them acceptable” . Good trick with the cardboard though. Let’s hope no bright spark thinks of adding horizontal ads too!

[David Clark 13Participant @davidclark13]

Hi There

The popup appears to have gone.

I don’t notice the flashing ads on the top or the left.

I look at the main screen and just don’t notice.

I expect some of you have wide angle eyes.

regards David

 

[VersabossParticipant @versaboss]

Well, well, and that even before noon!!!  Congratulations!

[Peter G. ShawParticipant @peterg-shaw75338]

Thanks David & Kelvin. It’s nice to see some responsiveness from a business.

 

Sid,

 

You are quite right about the cookies – I had forgotten them. Probably in part because I, along with a lot of other junk, disable them as much as possible. I have strong objections to other people placing stuff on MY computer without MY permission, and that includes Microsoft!

 

Regards,

 

Peter G. Shaw.

 

[CirclipParticipant @circlip]

Many thanks DC1 and Kelvin, so not only the wolves are listening to the bleating of the sheep. Only the long posts and the “See for free” feature to sort and we’re nearly there.

 

  Regards  Ian.

[David Clark 13Participant @davidclark13]

Hi There

What is the see for free feature or is that

see all magazines for free? No chance.

regards David

[CirclipParticipant @circlip]

Oh yes, some chance of that. No, it’s the “Test ride M/E and MEW” by cliking on the cover. Link on front page

 

 

  Take Model Engineer and Model Engineers’ Workshop magazines for a trial run here.

 

 

 

  Regards  Ian.

Edited By Circlip on 26/04/2010 18:30:21

[David Clark 13Participant @davidclark13]

Hi There

I will ask about the test drive.

It should be workinmg.

regards David

 

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