Pop up ad on home page

[Ady1Participant @ady1]

My pop-up has a picture of an undressed nubile draped over a lathe.

Keep up the good work here

[Nick_GParticipant @nick_g]

Posted by Ady1 on 16/06/2015 00:37:15:

My pop-up has a picture of an undressed nubile draped over a lathe.

Keep up the good work here

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I have ones of an 'undressed' draped over a steam engine. (really) That I took back in the days of film on a Blad.

But as it is a full size engine it does not qualify for this model engineering site. So this prevents me posting the images here.

Nick

[Enough!Participant @enough]

Posted by Neil Wyatt on 15/06/2015 22:02:16:

once you log in the pop-up will go until you log out,

 

If I'm interpreting you correctly, Neil, it doesn't work that way for me. I stay logged in between sessions but the pop-up pops up each time I open the site.

Edit: it appears the pop-up is suppressed for as long as I have that browser session open – that is, I can go somewhere else in the same window/tab and come back here OK. But the cookie is apparently deleted when the browser is closed.

Edited By Bandersnatch on 16/06/2015 01:41:00

[Bruce EdneyParticipant @bruceedney59949]

I don't know how much control you guys have on data available for the Home page but if you were able to have any subscription numbers returns (but hidden) then your pop up advert could simply only display if no # in the field – Just a thought.

It is also frustrating (a little like the free gifts) when your International members get these UK only items.

Great forum and mags otherwise!!!

Regards

Bruce

[Boiler BriParticipant @boilerbri]

Nice one seems your loosing more than your gaining.

If I wanted the mag I would buy the odd copy, but in the time it's been on the shelves I have never needed it.

Nuff said.

Logged off and staying off until it's resolved.

Brian

[JasonBModerator @jasonb]

Maybe Neil should give an idea of the proportion of Number of subscribers to Number of visitors or even just forum members and then you will see the size of the target he is aiming at!! or better still what take up rate he gets from the promotion

Ads a couple here have said it pops up each time the browser visits ME for the first time in a session even if staying logged in, so as I keep my browser open all day it sonly going to pop up once in 24hrs which I can live with.

But why only available in the UK, why not also do 3 digital subs for £1 then you will also be covering international readers if you are trying to reach out to the biggest possible number of potential new subscribers?

J

[Oompa LumpaParticipant @oompalumpa34302]

From some of the comments above, I have deduced that:

Some members here are members as long as everything is going their way, and will dump you like a shot if they disagree with anything you do, also zero tolerance for a technical issue (which makes me question what the hell they are doing here in the first place).

More people than I thought don't have a life and a popup on a free forum which is, by and large, populated by good decent people who will help you out if you are stuck is the_End_of_The_World for some.

graham.

[jaCK HobsonParticipant @jackhobson50760]

I think your pop has two justifications:

1) tell people, who don't already, that there is a magazine.

2) make people feel guilty for not buying it.

I suspect that over 90% of people who visit this forum know that there is a printed magazine. They certainly know that once they see the pop up for the first time – they don't need to be reminded. So justification 1 is a fail.

Making people feel guilty is not a great way to build a business. Concentrate on great products and make that the motivation.

It is difficult to argue against 'pop ups are annoying'. Anything that isn't interesting and applicable to a user has a high chance of being annoying. By repeating the pop-up (with no additional information) it gets more and more annoying.

Katy – good job under difficult circumstances! You seem to know more than most of us about web site maintenance.

[Katy PurvisParticipant @katypurvis79544]

On a laptop or desktop, if you are repeatedly seeing the pop-up whilst logged in and in the same browser session, that suggests your cookies settings are blocking the cookie which is set to stop you seeing it again. If you reduce your cookie privacy setting for this website, that may help.

[Michael GilliganParticipant @michaelgilligan61133]

Posted by JasonB on 16/06/2015 07:31:01:

… so as I keep my browser open all day it sonly going to pop up once in 24hrs which I can live with.

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Jason,

That is NOT what happens when using some pads/tablets

Please see Katy's reply to me, last night.

MichaelG.

[Simon CollierParticipant @simoncollier74340]

I'll add my voice to those who find the pop ups infuriating.

[Ady1Participant @ady1]

But why only available in the UK, why not also do 3 digital subs for £1 then you will also be covering international readers if you are trying to reach out to the biggest possible number of potential new subscribers?

Now THAT makes sense. If you wanna make the dosh nowadays… you gotta go global

[BaldricParticipant @baldric]

I use several devices to view this forum, and as each time I go to a different device I get am logged out I don't login unless I am posting, I have a link to the forum, I use this, when I go to a subject then back again the popup re-appears, this is what is annoying, once a day would be not so bad, having logged in to write this I am not getting the popup. For me either allow me to be logged in on several devices or fix the popup so it doesn't keep appearing.

Baldric.

[HowiParticipant @howi]

Fully agree with you Oompa lumpa, lots of chill pills needed…….

I have an android tablet, in web browser I have a tab with the ME forum sight, open browser, click on ME tab, click refresh to get latest forum posts and away I go. ME sight set to auto login, no popups, no problems.

 

[Michael GilliganParticipant @michaelgilligan61133]

Posted by Howard Winwood on 16/06/2015 08:52:45:

… no popups, no problems.

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and thereore you are unlikely to appreciate the level of irritation being caused to others, less fortunate.

MichaelG.

[Neil WyattModerator @neilwyatt]

> proportion of Number of subscribers to Number of visitors

There are many more visitors than subscribers, and only a proportion of subscribers use the forum.

Naturally I can't share all the figures, but each week more visitors than subscribers and on average each one visits several pages and stays for several minutes.

You'll see Katy has already given some feedback (thanks Katy).

The marketing department told me that if it was unpopular they would pull it, they have already given the OK to do so – before 9:00 am but please allow a while for the change to take effect.

Neil

[Michael GilliganParticipant @michaelgilligan61133]

Posted by Neil Wyatt on 16/06/2015 09:13:40:

You'll see Katy has already given some feedback (thanks Katy).

The marketing department told me that if it was unpopular they would pull it, they have already given the OK to do so – before 9:00 am but please allow a while for the change to take effect.

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Thanks to all involved in this very wise decision

MichaelG.

[Neil WyattModerator @neilwyatt]

Apparently the deed has been done already. An ad will be appearing on the right hand side later today.

Neil

[mechman48Participant @mechman48]

Saw it yesterday… logged in today… pop up now gone… sorted… I think

George.

[Gordon WParticipant @gordonw]

It was here 10 mins. ago when I logged in, was about to delete this forum, I didn't see anything at all about the problem. Must have been asleep.

[Gray62Participant @gray62]

Ethan Zuckerman – the 'inventor' of the popup add, has actually apologised to the WWW community for his creation, stating that ' we ended up creating one of the most hated tools in the advertiser’s toolkit: the pop-up ad., and ' I’m sorry. Our intentions were good.'
He also said '“advertising is the original sin of the web” and that “the fallen state of our Internet is a direct, if unintentional, consequence of choosing advertising as the default model to support online content and services.”

'Nuff Said

[Peter G. ShawParticipant @peterg-shaw75338]

In general, I never watch or look at adverts. If I want something, the fact that it is being advertised does not affect my decision one way or another as for my shopping, I trawl through the relevant websites looking for the item concerned. And I certainly don't succumb to marketing blandishments and rush out to buy the latest all-singing, all-dancing must have piece of 3rd world produced junk just to keep up with the next door neighbours. This applies not only to this website, but to just about everything else, indeed, I often record a television program and then fast forward over the ads. Alternatively, I go channel hopping until the ads are finished.

I'm well aware that adverts help to pay for, eg, forums such as this, and whilst I detest pop-ups which override the essential stuff underneath, as long as there is that big X in the top right hand corner, then it's not too bad – provided the advert doesn't keep repeating. What does annoy, is when you cannot get rid of the advert until a certain number of seconds, or minutes, have passed – I find YouTube to be the biggest offender in this respect along with DVD players where the manufacturers have cravenly given into the so-called "Creative" industry and made players which can be prevented from fast forwarding until the unfortunate viewer has been forced to wade through various adverts for second and third rate films which you probably won't buy anyway.

All in all, this problem isn't that bad, annoying yes, and I'm glad the forum owners have seen sense.

Regards,

Peter G. Shaw

[Another JohnSParticipant @anotherjohns]

Neil;

I am a subscriber to both ME (print) and MEW (digital).

I do tend to browse from different computers, sometimes in different parts of the world, without logging in. I'll log in if I want to post something, of course, and if I'm on a computer/network where I don't mind my connection being scanned.

So, quite possibly some of the "zillions of visitors" may actually be subscribers, sans the login.

John.

[ANDY CAWLEYParticipant @andycawley24921]

Neil, Please pass on my thanks to your company for their enlightened attitude, they listen to their customers.

A zillion times better than a certain electricity supply company that are currently driving me mad by their couldn't give a stuff about the customer approach to life ! (Npower if you want to know)

[Neil WyattModerator @neilwyatt]

Thanks Andy,

We try!

Neil

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