Percival Marshall Speaks – Model Engineering Video

[Neil WyattModerator @neilwyatt]

The 1930s recording of Percival Marshall (founder and long-standing Editor of Model Engineer magazine and the Society of Model and Experimental Engineers in 1898) was mentioned recently.

As a pure sound file doesn't get much interst these days (sadly!) I've created a video from a whole series of clips and covers fo MEW and ME over the years.

The quality varies with the camera being used (some clips are nearly 20 years old) but i hope folks find it entertaining.

I find PM's little 'fireplace talk' as relevant now as when it was recorded.

Neil

[Neil WyattModerator @neilwyatt]

Something to listen to and watch.

[not done it yetParticipant @notdoneityet]

Well done Neil! At least one person I recognise in the clips.

[DC31kParticipant @dc31k]

Would it be possible to download and archive the sound clip on the Stub Mandrel website?

Until you made the video, the only place it could be found was on the http://www.neme-s.org/ website, and it is not currently to linked on that site. Try and find it yourself on neme-s.

It was only the excellent tip off in the other thread, pointing to its original mention in a further old thread that lead to it seeing the light of day.

Things on the net are not permanent, so the more places they are, the more likely they are to survive. There is another thread on here mentioning an article on Schlesinger limits by a South African guy which can no longer be found (I believe it was somewhat turned into an article for MEW). If this were also located again, it would be good to host it.

[Michael GilliganParticipant @michaelgilligan61133]

Posted by DC31k on 14/04/2020 09:00:52:

Would it be possible to download and archive the sound clip on the Stub Mandrel website?

Until you made the video, the only place it could be found was on the http://www.neme-s.org/ website, and it is not currently to linked on that site. Try and find it yourself on neme-s.

It was only the excellent tip off in the other thread, pointing to its original mention in a further old thread that lead to it seeing the light of day.

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I’ve just tried the old link, and it works fine for me : **LINK**

[audio src="http://www.neme-s.org/Percival_Marshall/Percival%20Marshall.wav" /]

MichaelG.

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Edit: ___ and further investigation will get you here:

http://www.neme-s.org/Percival_Marshall/

… which seems a little odd; because clicking ‘parent directory’ then takes you to the home page [where there appears to be no link available]

Edited By Michael Gilligan on 14/04/2020 09:58:19

[egaParticipant @ega]

Neil

Thank you for this. Who could quarrel with being described as the salt of the earth?

[Ed DuffnerParticipant @edduffner79357]

Thank you Neil.

At 4.19 the video shows a tool and cutter grinder. Is this of a particular design perhaps? or a self designed/made tool?

Ed.

[DC31kParticipant @dc31k]

Posted by Michael Gilligan on 14/04/2020 09:28:39:

.. which seems a little odd; because clicking ‘parent directory’ then takes you to the home page [where there appears to be no link available]

That is my point. You know where to look so you can confirm it is still there. But if you did not know, how would you go about finding it?

It is only through someone's chance remembering of your old, old posting that it has been found.

Try and find your original post as if you did not know it was there. In theory 'percival marshall site:model-engineer.co.uk' should eventually find it but you have to sift a lot of material.

Try and go at finding the audio file cold using the best Google-fu you have. If the file just sits on a server with no other page linking to it, it is almost impossible to find.

I suspect it used to be pointed to from the neme-s homepage, which is how you found it a long time ago, but that the neme-s page has been edited and the link removed.

[EmgeeParticipant @emgee]

Posted by Ed Duffner on 14/04/2020 11:13:40:

Thank you Neil.

At 4.19 the video shows a tool and cutter grinder. Is this of a particular design perhaps? or a self designed/made tool?

Ed.

Looks like a Quorn to me.

Emgee

[egaParticipant @ega]

Isn't that D A G Brown operating the Quorn?

Edited By ega on 14/04/2020 11:50:15

[KWILParticipant @kwil]

Yes it is Derek.

[Michael GilliganParticipant @michaelgilligan61133]

Posted by DC31k on 14/04/2020 11:16:17:

Posted by Michael Gilligan on 14/04/2020 09:28:39:

.. which seems a little odd; because clicking ‘parent directory’ then takes you to the home page [where there appears to be no link available]

That is my point. You know where to look so you can confirm it is still there. But if you did not know, how would you go about finding it?

[…]

I suspect it used to be pointed to from the neme-s homepage, which is how you found it a long time ago, but that the neme-s page has been edited and the link removed.

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But we all know where to look now

… and if we keep discussing it then it might eventually show-up on the search engines

MichaelG.

[Dennis WAParticipant @denniswa]

DC31k writes above: There is another thread on here mentioning an article on Schlesinger limits by a South African guy which can no longer be found (I believe it was somewhat turned into an article for MEW). If this were also located again, it would be good to host it.

The article is : "No limits: George Schlesinger" by Alan Bester.

MEW No 246. Autumn 2016

[Neil WyattModerator @neilwyatt]

Yep, Derek with his Quorn.

I'll see about putting the clip on my website.

Neil

[Neil WyattModerator @neilwyatt]

OK!

The video and and MP3 version of the audio can be accessed here:

http://www.stubmandrel.co.uk/model-engineering/176-percival-marshall-speaks

If you want to download, rather than play the audio you will need to right click the MP3 file link onb that web page and choose save as.

Hopefully it will soon start to be discoverable on Google etc.

I suppose his recording is effectively a 12930s podcast!

Neil

[DC31kParticipant @dc31k]

Posted by Dennis WA on 14/04/2020 14:14:26:

The article is : "No limits: George Schlesinger" by Alan Bester.

MEW No 246. Autumn 2016

Thankyou. I know of this one but would have to buy a back issue to see it. I would like to locate a copy of the original pdf that was on the website. I mentioned it as well more as an example of the non-permanence of internet stuff.

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