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  • #395493
    Stephen Spice
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      @stephenspice48575

      Dear very helpful people,

      I started to reply to individuals not being used to this sort of thing. perhaps being born in 1935 has something to do with it.

      I am absolutely amazed at the number of people offering to help. And again the vast variety of suggested solutions.

      I really aught to go and sit in the corner and try to digest it all.

      Are you all single people having no one saying " shall we go and do the shopping now ? "

      Should I suggest driving lessons. Perhaps not, we all need to keep safe.

      I might have taken pics of he set up and maybe the problem if only I can remember how to post them. I will have a look.

      Michael Gilligan's link shows the electric winding set up but not very clearly

      Because this problem seemed to be one that I was not going to solve. I have started to alter the clock to hand wind. But will certainly reinstate the electric winding as soon as possible.

      Many thanks to all who are trying to help and the mind boggles when you consider the vast number of people who are actually looking and perhaps not taking part.

      Stephen ( Old Spice )

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      #395498
      Michael Gilligan
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        @michaelgilligan61133

        Stephen … We love this sort of thing !!

        If you could give details of the motor, that would probably help.

        [Sorry; I've just been searching on the BHI archive, but still can't find the specified item]

        MichaelG.

        #395549
        John Haine
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          @johnhaine32865

          I like the suggestion of using a geared synchronous motor of the type used to operate central heating valves.

          Rather than winding a chain/weights, have a spiral spring remontoir. If this was selected and properly geared it could drive the great wheel arbor, running at the same speed so the spring is always kept would the same. Or, use an arrangement as on Clock B where the motor runs a worm lifting a weight on a lever applying torque to the great wheel, with a mercury switch to control its level.

          If you took the first approach, you could even dispense with most of the clock and just drive the hands direct…wink

          I'll get my coat…

          #395590
          not done it yet
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            @notdoneityet

            Shirley while raising the weights, all gravitational derived force is removed from the mechanism, so the clock would lose time while winding- (or stop if the raising took a long time)?

            #395592
            Michael Gilligan
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              @michaelgilligan61133
              Posted by not done it yet on 10/02/2019 11:59:08:

              Shirley while raising the weights, all gravitational derived force is removed from the mechanism, so the clock would lose time while winding- (or stop if the raising took a long time)?

              .

              Huygens sussed how to avoid that problem … a while back.

              MichaelG.

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              Edit: This video is longer than it needs to be, but demonstrates the action nicely:

              https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4JV1IXvoULs

              Edited By Michael Gilligan on 10/02/2019 12:18:54

              #396148
              Stephen Spice
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                @stephenspice48575

                Michael,

                Your youtube demonstrates exactly how this works.

                My photo's will show two bobbins operating the mercury switch and with a weight resting on the clock weight and a second tension weight. As the main weight raises or falls the switch is tilted.

                Stephen S.

                #396174
                SillyOldDuffer
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                  @sillyoldduffer

                  Posted by Stephen Spice on 13/02/2019 19:39:08:

                  My photo's will show …

                  Stephen S.

                  Nice clock! I particularly enjoyed this touch:

                  Must be a grasshopper escapement…

                  smiley

                  Dave

                  #396188
                  Mike Poole
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                    @mikepoole82104

                    Rotation detectors are used in industry to detect belt or shaft breakage in critical applications and as posters above have suggested could be an approach to monitoring this application. A thermistor to monitor temperature could work but it really needs to be embedded in the windings to offer the best protection, it could be game over by the time the frame reaches a critical temperature.

                    Mike

                    #426205
                    Michael Gilligan
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                      @michaelgilligan61133

                      I am resurrecting this thread just to add reference to a two-page article in Horological Journal, dated September 2019

                      Brian Robertson writes about making the 'Claude Reeve Four-Legged Gravity Escapement Regulator' and includes brief details of his 'Huygens Loop' electric winding.

                      MichaelG.

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