Offline copies

[Brian WarwickParticipant @brianwarwick88192]

£4 each x 212 copies = £848. (199 copies + another 13 issues.)

If I get enough interest from forum members, I will see if management will allow PDFs to go on sale for £848.

Who is going to be first to place an order?

regards David

That’s most pathetic answer I have ever seen on a post, while I agree the fee is for access the archive is not a bonus it’s clearly marketed as part of the deal on the subscription page.

[Ian PParticipant @ianp]

Pardon my ignorance, but isn't a moderator meant to be neutral?

In my opinion if a moderator gets 'fed up' they are not the right person to be doing the job. There is a responsibility encumbent on a moderator to be fair and unbiased and in my opinion if a moderator gets 'fed up' they should step aside.

One thing a modereator should not do is stick an oar in and make the subject even more inflamed!

Ian

[John Stevenson 1Participant @johnstevenson1]

Posted by David Clark 1 on 29/01/2013 19:03:39:

Hi There

You pay for access to read 13 issues of MEW. As a bonus you get access to another 200 or so Model Engineers' Workshop magazines.

How much should we charge if you get to keep them?

£4 each x 212 copies = £848. (199 copies + another 13 issues.)

If I get enough interest from forum members, I will see if management will allow PDFs to go on sale for £848.

Who is going to be first to place an order?

regards David

David, If I pay the £848 do i get acess to issiues No 200 to 212 imediatly see as you will have had my money ?

[David Clark 13Participant @davidclark13]

Hi Ian

I will not be moderating after 31 January.

I am stepping aside.

I will still have moderator access as I need that to do my MEW editing but after 31 January, someone else can do it.

I am neutral, just fed up of people not listening when I say it is a waste of time posting certain things on here. I have better things to do then keep saying the same old things over and over.

regards David

[David Clark 13Participant @davidclark13]

Hi John

No monies will be taken until the full 213 issues are available in PDF form.

It will take a year at least to make the PDF's.

I did one to a standard I was happy with, actually issue no 1, and it took me ten hours to do it.

So, at four a week it will take someone a full year or more to do them.

regards David

Edited By David Clark 1 on 29/01/2013 21:23:18

[David CParticipant @davidc]

Wow! Moderator!

mod·er·a·tor (md-rtr)

n.

1. One that moderates, as:

a. One that arbitrates or mediates.

b. One who presides over a meeting, forum, or debate.

" I am just fed up of this thread repeating itself by one or two people"

No, there are more than one or two and so I think that borders on a "throwing toys out of a pram attitude , I wish you well, but hope that the new moderator has a more constructive attitude. A Moderator with this type of attitude is, (in my bery very humble opinion), not a great loss.

[David Clark 13Participant @davidclark13]

I am stopping moderating as I will no longer be employed by the company as I am going freelance from Friday.

Then I can do what I want to do.

I am not throwing my toys out of the pram.

regards David

[VersabossParticipant @versaboss]

Ooooops – what happened with my posting about using Windows Script to download and save the digital content?

Did I reveal a well hidden secret here? Maybe my idea was not altogether bad, or else there would not be reason for censorship.

Greetings, Hansrudolf

(wonder what happens with this one …)

[jim bothParticipant @jimboth37830]

you can download 163 copies **LINK**

[Captain BigglesParticipant @captainbiggles]

David,

You are still missing the point. This is not a debate about the "value" of the current deal (we'd do well to remind ourselves of the difference in "value" and "cost" anyway) but my original point still stands.

I pay £40.50 for an annual subscription to Railway Modeller and get access to all the back-issues they've got around to digitising. I CAN read them all, online or offline, wherever I am in the world.

I pay £55 for an annual subscription to Model Engineerand and get access to all the back-issues they've got around to digitising. I CAN'T even read the current issue unless I have internet access, let alone the back-issues.

Why?

It is not about copying, or distributing, or what a good deal we get already, it's about having access to what's been paid for, wherever I want it.

Joel

[David Clark 13Participant @davidclark13]

Hi Biggles

AS I have said before, talk to the management, not this forum.

regards David

[BaldricParticipant @baldric]

Posted by David Clark 1 on 30/01/2013 08:55:03:

Hi Biggles

AS I have said before, talk to the management, not this forum.

regards David

Part of the function of a forum, as I understand it, is to share thoughts, in this case many people are not happy, hopefully this is one way the management will see people are not happy. Can you point out to the management this issue as afterall I hope you have direct contact with the relevant person.

Baldric

[David CParticipant @davidc]

Forum posts would seem to be the perfect place to show management strength of feeling. I would hope management would have a look at posts occasionally

Historically "discussion forum" used to be the common name for "forums" on the internet . Seems to be a lot of people getting slapped hands. It reminds me of the atmosphere of so many "model engineering clubs"………God help anybody who dare wants to move into the 21st century!

Excellent post Jim, though I notice it has already been pulled and Versaboss!

[David Clark 13Participant @davidclark13]

Hi There

I have just checked the digital subscription page.

It clearly states

PRICING 1 Year UNLIMITED Access just £29.99

regards David

[SteambuffParticipant @steambuff]

It also states :-

…. access to the latest digital issue & ONLINE archive

Dave

P.S There are several US magazines where you can't even print any of the pages.

[David CParticipant @davidc]

But access only available when you have an internet connection – So you do NOT have access to a digital issue when no connection. If I have a downloaded magazine, it is still a "digital issue" the "archive" may be stated as being online but NOT the subscribed dozen (though I am perfectly happy to admit I am wrong if someone finds something I have missed in the T&C)

Dave, with respect, I didn't subscribe to a US magazine, I don't even want to print pages, I want to read it "offline" in digital format.

All these Dave's and Davids are getting confusing!

 

 

Edited By David C on 30/01/2013 12:32:18

[merlinParticipant @merlin98989]

Why are you haranguing a bloke whom you know is leaving his job at the end of this week?

Why not find an old-fashioned friend (his name might be Ned or Ludd) who can lend you a pen so that you can write a letter of complaint to the management, publishers or owners or whoever?

You could enclose a stamped addressed envelope for their reply.

Cue for rants about snail mail, cost of postage (ten shillings a stamp) and huge profits made by magazine publishers?

[Sub MandrelParticipant @submandrel]

This is getting silly… can't say I blame David for getting demob happy

Neil

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