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    Ian P
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      @ianp

      Anybody who has assembled furniture will have come across these devices. One of today’s tasks was putting together a very low cost (and low quality) bedside cupboard thing. In my experience these cam-locking things are diecast from a zinc based alloy.IMG_20240114_165213_edit_73290495990379These are magnetic!

      Very little material in them but I’m not sure how they are formed but they are plated steel.

      Ian P

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      #707096
      Michael Gilligan
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        @michaelgilligan61133

        Astonishing

        MichaelG.

        #707100
        Dave Halford
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          @davehalford22513

          It’s Cheesium Jim , “but not as we know it”

          #707115
          Nigel Graham 2
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            @nigelgraham2

            Presumably machined from bar stock on an NC lathe, which will turn the basic cup then cut the side slots with a milling-spindle, then the screwdriver slots punched and the markings stamped?

            Machining surface finish not critical….

            #707117
            Michael Gilligan
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              @michaelgilligan61133

              🙂 !

              I would be much more likely to believe that they had found a way to make either the plating or the casting magnetic, Nigel

              MichaelG.

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              Edit: __ probably not the exact component, but this gives some idea of how economically-priced such items are:

              https://www.ironmongerydirect.co.uk/product/cam-connector-with-rim-15mm-diameter-15mm-locking-centre-nickel-plated-pack-of-50-991512?

              vat=1&GSP=true&srsltid=AfmBOoourT5dN0yWgE6BsGeVtGRSN6v7iokN4UFqJ-SLL_JIB3yNayfNjIQ

              #707133
              Robert Atkinson 2
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                @robertatkinson2

                They look like stamped and pressed to me.
                Outline stamped from strip and then pressed through a circular die to make it into a cup. Possibly multiple stages. It’s surprising how fast complex shapes can be made like this.

                Robert.

                #707146
                Bazyle
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                  @bazyle

                  If it is nickel  plate or nickel under chrome it will be weakly magnetic.

                  #707149
                  Ian P
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                    @ianp

                    At first I thought it was possibly the plating that might be magnetic but decided from the amount of grip a Neodymium magnet had that the object itself was ferrous.

                    It is plated steel and was probably hot stamped/pressed into a cup shape and then has the apertures punched and the remaining parts of the tubular wall bent into shape.

                    What surprises me is that this method of manufacture could be cheaper than diecasting.

                    I re-formed ‘tang’ with pliers, it’s about 3mm a 1.4mm thick and unsurprisingly, bends just like steel

                    Ian PIMG_20240114_201918_edit_78242284526602

                    Robert beat me to it

                    #707153
                    Mark Rand
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                      @markrand96270

                      I would suggest die forged steel followed by shearing and then plating.

                      #707171
                      Ady1
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                        @ady1

                        Looks like sheet to me, in 2 parts

                        Part 1 stamped and made circular, you can see the die marks

                        Part 2 stamped like a 5p coin

                        2 parts induction welded or whatever, together

                        Then dipped

                        you can see the grip marks on the outside of part 1

                        Being made of cheesium makes them easy to manipulate

                        (Only a guess btw)

                        #707290
                        Mick B1
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                          @mickb1

                          My guess would be that having them magnetic enables advantages in automatic handling that justify a more expensive material than standard diecasting alloy.

                          #707298
                          Neil Wyatt
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                            @neilwyatt

                            It amazes me how flatpack has changed over the years, mostly for the better, to be fair.

                            I’m currently replacing my dad’s kitchen. The old units were just screwed together. The new ones no longer have the locking pegs screwed in, they have expanding sections that lock them in place when you turn the clamps, making assembly much faster.

                            Some of the other small changes – wedges with a screw in that hold the back panels secure, easier to adjust hinges and doors that just clip in place. Much more expensive drawers, but they work really well.

                            It’s easy to complain, but I’m finding these units go together better in about half the time.

                             

                            Neil

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