New pound coin

[HacksawParticipant @hacksaw]

I had my first new 1 pound coin today… I had a look through a magnifying glass ,and its all scratched and beaten up already !! Can't even make out the hologram … is it supposed to be a £ sign ? They won't last long

[Michael GilliganParticipant @michaelgilligan61133]

Posted by Hacksaw on 03/04/2017 19:00:02:

… Can't even make out the hologram … is it supposed to be a £ sign ?

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I believe 'hologram' is a slight exageration [pretty sure that some of the literature said 'like a hologram']

It appears to be rather more like a reflective version of those ghastly 3D postcards with a prismatic overlay.

It should flip from £ to 1 according to the angle of view.

I haven't yet studied it in detail, but it seems to be achieved by 'bruising' the surface.

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MichaelG.

[JimmieSParticipant @jimmies]

Gave one to our 8 year old grandchild. The response 'granda, make sure no one gives you a euro coin instead of a new pound coin as they look very similar.' Out of the mouths of ……………. .

[jason udallParticipant @jasonudall57142]

For a while there was a coin ..name eludes me… from a central or Southern African country..again name eludes me… that was made to the same material. .dimensions. .just different head and face…thusly ..readily accepted by coin acceptors….
Of course since the exchange rate was about 100 to 1 the chance for mischief was there…only prob. Your average currency converter didn’t stock that denomination…
And now apparently many have been “restruck” for use as counterfeit Pounds.

Ironically made for that african country by royal mint…

[Tim StevensParticipant @timstevens64731]

Michael Gilligans comment on the scrap value of silver is not really as relevant as it sounds. One of the principles of real coins (of precious metal) was that the source of the coin was identifiable and reliable, so you could trade it as silver or gold without having to go through an assay process. So, the value of the coinage was always greater than scrap.

The term 'coining' is used in the metal trades for the process of deformation between two flattish blocks of steel. The complexity of the impression produced by the design was their way of making forgery difficult – and it still is.

And yes, way back in the days of yore*, a pound really was the value of a pound of silver.
*Round about the time of the last successful invasion by a bunch of immigrants, I think.

Regards, Tim

[Michael GilliganParticipant @michaelgilligan61133]

Posted by Tim Stevens on 03/04/2017 21:40:12:

Michael Gilligans comment on the scrap value of silver is not really as relevant as it sounds.

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Tim,

You disappoint me …

Not only by your accusation; but also by your omission of an apostrophe.

MichaelG.

[V8EngParticipant @v8eng]

Posted by Michael Gilligan on 03/04/2017 22:04:33:

Posted by Tim Stevens on 03/04/2017 21:40:12:

Michael Gilligans comment on the scrap value of silver is not really as relevant as it sounds.

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Tim,

You disappoint me …

Not only by your accusation; but also by your omission of an apostrophe.

MichaelG.

On the BBC News this morning there was a report of a man in Bristol adding or removing incorrect apostrophes from signage, they would not identify him.

I wonder!

Edited By V8Eng on 03/04/2017 22:42:54

[Michael GilliganParticipant @michaelgilligan61133]

Tim,

For info. : here is a selling price [as opposed to the scrap price] for 'Fine Siver'

**LINK**

http://www.cooksongold.com/Sheet/-Alloy=Silver_Sheet/-Thickness=0/-Type=0/Sheet/Fine-Silver-Sheet-1.60mm-Half-Hard-prcode-CSF-160

MichaelG.

[Michael GilliganParticipant @michaelgilligan61133]

Posted by V8Eng on 03/04/2017 22:39:37:

On the BBC News this morning there was a report of a man in Bristol adding or removing incorrect apostrophes from signage, they would not identify him.

I wonder!

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Yes, I watched that … but was mildly offended .

He has the arrogance to 'correct' the punctuation … but his work leaves us with ugly typography !!

The true polymath would feel the need to appropriately adjust the kerning.

MichaelG.

Edited By Michael Gilligan on 03/04/2017 23:06:01

[Enough!Participant @enough]

Posted by V8Eng on 03/04/2017 22:39:37:

 

On the BBC News this morning there was a report of a man in Bristol adding or removing incorrect apostrophes from signage, they would not identify him.

 

Good for him. Over here (Canada) there's a supermarket chain which, as part of its lurid signage – on each of their many stores – has the boast "Won't be Beat".

Just once I'd like to get up there in the dead of night and add the "en".

Edited By Bandersnatch on 03/04/2017 23:00:53

[Cornish JackParticipant @cornishjack]

Commercial signage producers have long since given up any pretension to good grammar. Not really up to speed on modern 'shorthand' either. … Local Lidl's banner to departing customers "See you next time". For relevance, read Guy Martin's biography.

rgds

Bill

[Danny M2ZParticipant @dannym2z]

There used to be a business in a nearby town that sold office supplies.

It often bemused me when I walked past and noticed the signage 'STATIONARY SUPPLIES'.

Presumably they had slow moving stock

* Danny M *

[John Stevenson 1Participant @johnstevenson1]

Amuses me when you read the label on a bottle of water and it says "Still Water"

3 weeks later it's still water ??

[Enough!Participant @enough]

What is to be made of this on the outside of a box containing a prescription drug:

" Pharmacist: Dispense with enclosed Consumer Information leaflet. "

[Michael GilliganParticipant @michaelgilligan61133]

Posted by Michael Gilligan on 03/04/2017 19:13:47:

Posted by Hacksaw on 03/04/2017 19:00:02:

… Can't even make out the hologram … is it supposed to be a £ sign ?

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I believe 'hologram' is a slight exageration [pretty sure that some of the literature said 'like a hologram']

< etc. >.

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Hacksaw,

Here is the promotional illustration:

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As you now know … the real thing is, by comparison, disappointing.

MichaelG.

[John FlackParticipant @johnflack59079]

Saw a photo of US ice cream parlour (parlor)

Educate your children on taxes EAT A THIRD OF THEIR ICE CREAM,,,,,,,,,

[Russell EberhardtParticipant @russelleberhardt48058]

Posted by JimmieS on 03/04/2017 20:17:59:

Gave one to our 8 year old grandchild. The response 'granda, make sure no one gives you a euro coin instead of a new pound coin as they look very similar.' Out of the mouths of ……………. .

If they do, keep it. The Euro will soon be worth more than the pound the way it's going

Russell

[vernon stuttardParticipant @vernonstuttard64763]

Don't drive tired

[CirclipParticipant @circlip]

Posted by Michael Gilligan on 03/04/2017 22:55:56:

Posted by V8Eng on 03/04/2017 22:39:37:

On the BBC News this morning there was a report of a man in Bristol adding or removing incorrect apostrophes from signage, they would not identify him.

I wonder!

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Yes, I watched that … but was mildly offended .

He has the arrogance to 'correct' the punctuation … but his work leaves us with ugly typography !!

The true polymath would feel the need to appropriately adjust the kerning.

MichaelG.

Yes, what a self opinionated pendantic p**t he is. Having the audacity to show up the burger flipper and predicktive phone texter generation.

Regards Ian.

[Neil WyattModerator @neilwyatt]

'Lenticular, hologram like'?

Lenticular????

Neil

[Michael GilliganParticipant @michaelgilligan61133]

Posted by Neil Wyatt on 04/04/2017 16:42:27:

'Lenticular, hologram like'?

Lenticular????

Neil

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Neil,

They were obviously struggling to describe it

… as was I, when I wrote : "It appears to be rather more like a reflective version of those ghastly 3D postcards with a prismatic overlay."

I know of no proper term to describe what the Royal Mint has produced … But the 'sin of mis-description' is no worse than describing a Newtonian Telescope as 'rather like a refracting telesscope'. … i.e. The function is similar, despite the optics being quite the opposite.

MichaelG.

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P.S. it is, of course, quite emphatically,NOT a hologram.

Edited By Michael Gilligan on 04/04/2017 19:45:44

[Mike PooleParticipant @mikepoole82104]

We just had a new jukebox installed in the pub and it will not take the new pound coin, not thinking too far ahead there.

Mike

[Michael GilliganParticipant @michaelgilligan61133]

In pursuit of the 'secret' security feature:

METALLIC MATERIALS WITH EMBEDDED LUMINESCENT PARTICLE

• BR112012031134 (A2) **LINK** has a corresponding US patent US2011305919 (A1), which is downloadable.
• **LINK**

MichaelG.

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For an introductory explanation, see here:

http://www.ibtimes.co.uk/royal-mints-top-secret-security-patents-behind-new-1-coin-1613552

Edited By Michael Gilligan on 04/04/2017 20:52:06

[Neil WyattModerator @neilwyatt]

Posted by Bandersnatch on 03/04/2017 23:00:03:

Posted by V8Eng on 03/04/2017 22:39:37:

On the BBC News this morning there was a report of a man in Bristol adding or removing incorrect apostrophes from signage, they would not identify him.

Good for him. Over here (Canada) there's a supermarket chain which, as part of its lurid signage – on each of their many stores – has the boast "Won't be Beat".

Just once I'd like to get up there in the dead of night and add the "en".

Edited By Bandersnatch on 03/04/2017 23:00:53

When I was a kid, I wanted to get a big bag full of self adhesive 'letter-I' shapes, and spend a night adding them to TO LET signs. Puerile, eh?

Neil

[Neil WyattModerator @neilwyatt]

Posted by Michael Gilligan on 04/04/2017 19:41:33:

Posted by Neil Wyatt on 04/04/2017 16:42:27:

'Lenticular, hologram like'?

Lenticular????

Neil

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Neil,

They were obviously struggling to describe it

… as was I, when I wrote : "It appears to be rather more like a reflective version of those ghastly 3D postcards with a prismatic overlay."

I know of no proper term to describe what the Royal Mint has produced … But the 'sin of mis-description' is no worse than describing a Newtonian Telescope as 'rather like a refracting telesscope'. … i.e. The function is similar, despite the optics being quite the opposite.

MichaelG.

I found one. It probably counts as a form of ripple picture, the predecessor to lenticular printing.

Neil

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