Myford Hammered Green Paint

[rik arryParticipant @rikarry]

Is there a source for MYFORD Hammered Green paint

nearest I found is **LINK**

anyone seen or tried another?

Any help most appreciated 😊

[rik arryParticipant @rikarry]

Anyone know a source

[Andy CarlsonParticipant @andycarlson18141]

I think you may be entering tricky territory.

The choices of available hammered finish have diminished in recent years. The formulation of some types has also changed. Some say the new stuff is no good. No doubt health and safety and/or environmental regulations have something to do with the change.

I don't know what Myford hammered green looks like TBH. My interest in this question starts from my ownership of a Unimat SL.

There has been a lot of traffic on the Unimat groups.io forum on this topic… mostly hypothetical and around product availability I'm afraid. I have not seen anyone (in the UK anyway) saying that they have tried X product and had good results.

The Unimat uses a light green shade of Hammered paint. Some have said it is RAL 6011 Reseda green. Maybe it is. My lathe and motor are both light green but one is a deeper shade than the other.

Unrelated to the discussion on the Unimat forum I pulled my late 1980s Vixen SP102 telescope out of hibernation recently and remembered that the mount also uses light green hammered paint. Looking online I found folks saying that this was also RAL 6011. Once again I did not find any success reports from UK people.

As you have found, there is also a community interested in Startrite machinery (which I must admit I know nothing about) who are also looking for light green hammered paint.

The other product I found is this one

Sorry but like others who have discussed this subject, I have not actually tried the currently available paint… on either my Unimat or my telescope mount.

I think that matching will be tricky, so a full repaint is probably a better bet than trying to do spot repairs.

The instructions may give you a clue about formulation. The old stuff used to require nasty thinners (Xylene??) and stated that the second coat must go on in a few hours after the first.

Like I said, I have no clue what colour Myford hammered green was so RAL 6011 etc may be totally wrong.

[Phil WhitleyParticipant @philwhitley94135]

when Hammerite became an Akzo-Nobel company, they dropped all the light shades of the colours, and changed the formulation. I have used the new stuff, but as you say, it is not as good. I have used Paragon paints on my Colchester student, with excellent results, and found it to be top quality machine enamel, but I have not used the hammered version. For hammered light green, I now use a version from Manor coatings, which goes on well brushed or sprayed, but I think is only available in 5ltr cans. I would go with the paragon, and report your findings!

Phil

[Martin KyteParticipant @martinkyte99762]

Posted by rik arry on 01/11/2020 10:06:57:

Is there a source for MYFORD Hammered Green paint

nearest I found is **LINK**

anyone seen or tried another?

Any help most appreciated 😊

That's not Myford thats EMCO

regards Martin

[Andy CarlsonParticipant @andycarlson18141]

Posted by Martin Kyte on 01/11/2020 18:15:25:

That's not Myford thats EMCO

It says it is intended for Startrite machinery. How the Startrite colour compares to Emco or Myford I have no idea.

I've seen a few photos on the Internet but the apparent shades vary a lot depending on lighting and so on so it is very difficult to know what is a good match and what is not… unless someone can put the two side by side.

Even with pics on lathes.co.uk, I suspect some of the machines (Unimats anyway) have been repainted… which adds a further variable to the equation.

My guess based on the photos is that the ML10 is a somewhat darker shade than the Unimat but I can't be sure.

[Martin KyteParticipant @martinkyte99762]

Posted by Andy Carlson on 01/11/2020 21:12:44:

Posted by Martin Kyte on 01/11/2020 18:15:25:

That's not Myford thats EMCO

It says it is intended for Startrite machinery. How the Startrite colour compares to Emco or Myford I have no idea.

I've seen a few photos on the Internet but the apparent shades vary a lot depending on lighting and so on so it is very difficult to know what is a good match and what is not… unless someone can put the two side by side.

Even with pics on lathes.co.uk, I suspect some of the machines (Unimats anyway) have been repainted… which adds a further variable to the equation.

My guess based on the photos is that the ML10 is a somewhat darker shade than the Unimat but I can't be sure.

. . . . and obviously StartRite as you say.

regards Martin

[pgk pgkParticipant @pgkpgk17461]

This thread caused me to look around the web. I note that Wicks do a hammered finish paint @ £12 for 750ml. Whether the green is a useful shade is another matter but at least the COSSH sheet states it's xylene based. and direct to metal.

pgk

[Andy CarlsonParticipant @andycarlson18141]

I found another thread about a Startrite restoration. This chap has actually done some painting… which is a step forward from most discussions about paint colour. I think the paint supplier was different again though.

https://www.mig-welding.co.uk/forum/threads/startrite-mercury-10speed-advice.100275/page-2

[rik arryParticipant @rikarry]

Posted by pgk pgk on 01/11/2020 21:54:41:

This thread caused me to look around the web. I note that Wicks do a hammered finish paint @ £12 for 750ml. Whether the green is a useful shade is another matter but at least the COSSH sheet states it's xylene based. and direct to metal.

pgk

Hi Thanks although colour on tin doesn’t look anything like it although it rarely does

I found a few other pics that maybe promising. As it looks lighter than what the tin colour displays 😊

[Brian MorehenParticipant @brianmorehen85290]

Morning

Try Craftmaster Paints They have a great range of Myford colours

Regards Bee M

[Andy CarlsonParticipant @andycarlson18141]

In case you didn't find it… a thread from 18 months ago about grey hammered ML10 paint… suggests another supplier who does xylene based paint.

https://www.model-engineer.co.uk/forums/postings.asp?th=121595

[HollowpointParticipant @hollowpoint]

I bought some if the Bitec stuff a few months back. It's fairly close to the Myford colour and slightly paler, more minty than the emco and startrite colours.

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/110909459993

[rik arryParticipant @rikarry]

Posted by Hollowpoint on 02/11/2020 16:19:31:

I bought some if the Bitec stuff a few months back. It's fairly close to the Myford colour and slightly paler, more minty than the emco and startrite colours.

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/110909459993

got any left over you could send for me to try on a handle happily pay etc

cheers

[Andy CarlsonParticipant @andycarlson18141]

Posted by Hollowpoint on 02/11/2020 16:19:31:

I bought some if the Bitec stuff a few months back. It's fairly close to the Myford colour and slightly paler, more minty than the emco and startrite colours.

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/110909459993

Any chance of a photo of something painted with this paint please

[HollowpointParticipant @hollowpoint]

I've only got a small amount left which I've saved for touching up.

I could maybe paint a patch on a scrap of card or something and send in the post.

I'll try to get a picture tomorrow in daylight. I can photo it next to some unimat parts for comparison.

[Andy CarlsonParticipant @andycarlson18141]

A comparison photo would be brilliant thanks.

[HollowpointParticipant @hollowpoint]

Here is the comparison photo as promised.

[HollowpointParticipant @hollowpoint]

[Andy CarlsonParticipant @andycarlson18141]

Thank you for that – most kind.

[rik arryParticipant @rikarry]

Link 

Not available in UK

 

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Hammerite-45175-Green-Hammered-Finish/dp/B000PIG4OS

Edited By rik arry on 08/11/2020 09:41:47

[StueeeeParticipant @stueeee]

Posted by Hollowpoint on 02/11/2020 16:19:31:

I bought some if the Bitec stuff a few months back. It's fairly close to the Myford colour and slightly paler, more minty than the emco and startrite colours.

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/110909459993

I've also bought this exact colour, can't comment re. Myford suitability, but it's a very close match to the hammer finish paint used by Smart & Brown on this 1977 Model "M" lathe.

[rik arryParticipant @rikarry]

So after much investigation and mixing I’ve got to a point that the colour is about correct picture was applied only with a brush hope to get better results after spraying .

Before and after just around the hole

Edited By rik arry on 26/11/2020 22:47:51

[old martParticipant @oldmart]

I don't remember seeing a Myford with a hammered paint finish.

[T.BParticipant @t-b-2]

Posted by old mart on 27/11/2020 20:17:34:

I don't remember seeing a Myford with a hammered paint finish.

ML10's and there variants are in hammered grey / silver or green

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