My workshop build

[Michael Bird 1Participant @michaelbird1]

I have spent the last 6 months building my workshop. I started with a 16' x 12' shed and I insulated the walls, ran electrics with 12 double sockets, and then boarded the walls and painted them.

The lighting is 4 double striplights 5 foot long. The floor is 2" bearers carrying a one inch timber floor which is insulated and then a 30mm MDF placed on top and a rubber matting on top of that.

I have built two benches, one to house the machines and the other to work at.

The whole build log can be viewed here:

**LINK**

Here's a few photo's.

[Michael Bird 1Participant @michaelbird1]

[SillyOldDufferModerator @sillyoldduffer]

Drool!

If mine looked as good as that I would never dare use it. (Just jealous…)

Dave

[Roderick JenkinsParticipant @roderickjenkins93242]

A Myford lathe and a Sharp mill. That man's got taste (and some space).

Rod

[Jeff DaymanParticipant @jeffdayman43397]

Looking great Michael, well done. JD

[alan ord 2Participant @alanord2]

Great looking workshop but if you don't want problems with rust get rid of the gas heater!

Alan.

[damianParticipant @damiannoble34800]

Why the red light on the wall?

[Ady1Participant @ady1]

Lovely. You could rent it out as a holiday let.

[Michael GilliganParticipant @michaelgilligan61133]

Posted by damian noble on 14/09/2016 21:19:30:
Why the red light on the wall?

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He's also an Astronomer

MichaelG.

[Michael Bird 1Participant @michaelbird1]

Thanks guys.

Yeah the red light is so I can set the scope outside and use the workshop as a warm room. The red light protects my night vision.

Alan whats the problem with the gas heater then?

[duncan webster 1Participant @duncanwebster1]

firstly condensation, all the products of combustion, carbon dioxide and water, are vented into your workshop, and the water condenses on your lovely machines

secondly, when I last the sums it's actually cheaper to use electrical heaters than buying gas in bottles. Check again as prices vary

If you want to use gas get a balanced flue heater (if you can find one that runs on bottled gas), but you'll need advice on how to install it in a wodden structure.

[Martin 100Participant @martin100]

The uninsulated roof is IMHO a big mistake. Insulate with 200mm of PIR and you might not need any additional heat if you can maximise winter solar gain through the windows (and reduce summer solar gain with shading / overhangs) Build a solar air heater on a south facing wall and you definitely won't need to spend anything on heating

[MuzzerParticipant @muzzer]

I'm on a similar journey although I think it's fair to say I am some way behind you. When I looked out there a couple of weeks ago there was a perfectly good (single) garage and an outhouse….

Not content to wait for the building to be quite complete, I've already started out on the task of filling the new workshop. After all, you have to take these things seriously.

Shizuoka CNC milling machine (2.75 tonnes of it):

[BazyleParticipant @bazyle]

Wow wht looks luxurious.

Get rid of the plastic cover over the lathe. Just because it is sold by myford doesn't mean it is a good idea as it will sweat. Use a cotton sheet. Also get a dehumidifier.

[Bob YouldonParticipant @bobyouldon45599]

Good evening Michael

Some very good advice regarding your new shop, the gas heater will turn everything brown when you turn your back, if the shop is as well insulated as you say then a simple 2kw fan heater will keep you and everything at an even temperature, put it on a clock for an hour in the early hours of the morning and about half an hour around seven in the evening and you will prevent any condensation, everything will remain above dew point.. I've a timber, well insulated workshop with a similar heating regime and I've never suffered with rust but whatever you do don't do any soldering etc inside, that'll set the dreaded rust off. I've a cover much like yours for my Myford and it's been in a cupboard for the last forty years, never on the machine!

What exactly in your new vast abode do you intending making?

Regards,

Bob

[thaiguzziParticipant @thaiguzzi]

Normal shed on the outside. Light and airy on the inside. Nice.

[frank brownParticipant @frankbrown22225]

Too late now but MDF is not right for flooring, you should have used 22mm P5 grade T&G flooring panels. The previous occupant to my house used bits of MDF for shelving in the garage, in the long term (>5 years) it bows under its own weight. Some of my shelves are spectacular in their curves. Must get round to to replacing them

Frank

[Speedy Builder5Participant @speedybuilder5]

Michael – Looks like a great place you have built there and hours of pleasure to be had in it, but DO INSTALL some sort of FIRE protection. I have an Extinguisher 'bomb' which although messy if it ever went off, is non toxic and automatic. They cost about £300, but allows you to sleep at night. And it goes without saying – SECURITY.
BobH

[frank brownParticipant @frankbrown22225]

Shame to hear that Speedy, what caused it to do that? Not sure about their efficiency but under the bonnet CO2 systems are cheaper, too small a volume?

Frank

[JasonBModerator @jasonb]

Nice shed

Your MDF will be fine as you have floated it on the subfloor so its fully supported, just watch it around the doorway as you have not used mositure resistant MRMDF if there are a lot of wet feet going in & out.

As others have said the roof could do with insulation, Kingspan or Celotex between the purlins would be best.

[JAParticipant @ja]

Posted by Speedy Builder5 on 15/09/2016 07:50:40:

Michael – Looks like a great place you have built there and hours of pleasure to be had in it, but DO INSTALL some sort of FIRE protection. I have an Extinguisher 'bomb' which although messy if it ever went off, is non toxic and automatic. They cost about £300, but allows you to sleep at night. And it goes without saying – SECURITY.
BobH

Please give more details about the extinguisher bomb. I have just goggled "extinguisher bomb" and it appears to be a hand thrown device. Interesting and useful but you cannot use it in your sleep. Is there a similar device which is activated when a fire is detected (and you are asleep or watching the Antiques Roadshow)?

JA

[Michael Bird 1Participant @michaelbird1]

Wow so much good advice, I now know I've joined the right forum.

The gas fire is going that's for sure, I already have a 2Kw electric fire I use for camping, I was just unsure of the costs of running it.

A humidifier is also on my list as is a fire extinguisher, there's so much to buy.

I did think about insulating the roof when I was building it but for some reason I didn't. It's a good idea and will most likely be my next major project. I can see the benefits of it that is for sure.

The reason I put a 30mm MDF floor down is that I got 6 1220×2440 sheets for next to nothing. The shed already had a 25mm floor sitting on 50mm square joists so I laid the 30mm floor on top of it making it 55mm thick, I thought it would take the weight of everything. It feels good and there is no movement or bounce anywhere.

As for what I'm going to make in it I'm not 100% sure. I haven't touched a lathe or milling machine for 32 years so firstly just practice making swarf. My other hobby is astronomy and I have a nice telescope set up so will make a few adapters and then design and build my own Alt/Az mount and maybe if I'm any good a EQ mount.

Finally I would love to build some steam engines one day.

[MWParticipant @mw27036]

"I now know I've joined the right forum."

 

As if there was any doubt!

A word of proceeding caution that ensuring good ventilation during use of the fire is utterly essential to avoiding the dreaded corrosion.

A fire blanket or bucket of sand is probably the easiest and cheaper solution because fire extinquishers are normally only garaunteed for a year.

Some alcohol wash and first aid kit will probably save you alot of trips to the house when you cut yourself too. 

Michael W

Edited By Michael Walters on 15/09/2016 11:00:16

[Anonymous]

Posted by Muzzer on 14/09/2016 22:34:17:

I'm on a similar journey although I think it's fair to say I am some way behind you. When I looked out there a couple of weeks ago there was a perfectly good (single) garage and an outhouse….

Not content to wait for the building to be quite complete, I've already started out on the task of filling the new workshop. After all, you have to take these things seriously.

Shizuoka CNC milling machine (2.75 tonnes of it):

Good grief, that looks more like a bomb site than a building site! Is the building at the back part of your property? Looks like it's got some large sliding doors; could be ideal for a workshop.

Man, I'll bet that mill will shift some metal when it's running. I hope the concrete floor will be strong enough. Was there a 4th axis with it, or provision for same? Clearly I've been outclassed, I'll now go and commiserate in the workshop with my Tormach.

Andrew

[Michael GilliganParticipant @michaelgilligan61133]

Posted by Michael Bird 1 on 15/09/2016 10:36:07:

My other hobby is astronomy and I have a nice telescope set up so will make a few adapters and then design and build my own Alt/Az mount and maybe if I'm any good a EQ mount.

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Michael,

I don't know if he finished documenting it elsewhere, but; Chris Heapy's old page about his EQ is still accessible, and definitely worth a look: **LINK**

http://easyweb.easynet.co.uk/~chrish/cancelled%20account/eqnotes.htm

MichaelG.

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P.S. … That was a very good price for 30mm MDF

… Just make sure you keep it dry.

Edited By Michael Gilligan on 15/09/2016 11:02:36

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