Multifix toolholder Vendors

[Pete.Participant @pete-2]

Thanks, definitely worth making a nice job of it like that, how do you actually post YouTube videos on here? Still haven't worked it out

[Henry BrownParticipant @henrybrown95529]

You copy the address from the top of the YouTube screen you want to link to, it will start with https:/….

Come to your post on here, click on the world icon on the second row (third button in on its LH side) and past the address in the box, type in "Link" or what ever you want to appear in your post, click ok and it should appear in the posting. Hope that makes sense!

Nothing arrived from Germany today

[Pete.Participant @pete-2]

https://youtu.be/FDPfB4r1qEw

 

Video

 

See if that works, he's probably working backwards from the older orders, I got an email the end of last week to say it was despatched, have you had an email?

 

How do you make the video actually appear in the forum post? I used the YouTube button above in the first line, but it didn't do anything? 

Edited By Pete. on 13/01/2021 17:59:52

[Henry BrownParticipant @henrybrown95529]

Yep, the link works ok, I've no idea how to imbed the video so that it shows up!

I haven't heard from Peter despite emailing on Monday, I think, but haven't heard back from him yet I'll keep an eye open for the email…

[Pete.Participant @pete-2]

I think he said he had 5000 tool tool holders coming in, given a big proportion of them were sold before arriving, he probably has quite a few parcels to get out

[Henry BrownParticipant @henrybrown95529]

Peter mentioned that the shipment was1.5 tonnes, that's an awful lot of parts I guess!

[karl starkieParticipant @karlstarkie16701]

hi all new to this site

i have a multifix tool holder on a optimum D420 but i have no holders for it and i am struggling to work out its size

it is approx 80mm between the 2 pins that hold the tool to the post

is there anybody that would know as to what size holders im looking for as theres very little info around and what there is is rather complicated with no mention of width between the 2 pins

regards

karl

[Steve PaveyParticipant @stevepavey65865]

If you go to this page, select one of the items and click the ‘More’ link it will take you to a drawing. While I can’t find the dimension you mention, there are other dimensions you can use as a guide. I suspect yours is the E size, which has 100mm tool slots, so 80mm between the pins sounds about right. I’ll measure mine later and let you know.

[Pete.Participant @pete-2]

Karl, the pins on the outer casing move when tightened, so there's room for error, slide the casing off and measure the actual body of the tool post, I'll give you the size for the A in an hour or so if nobody has done so by then.

[Pete.Participant @pete-2]

The body of a size A is 61mm, hopefully this gives you a reference to help determine your size.

[Steve PaveyParticipant @stevepavey65865]

I’ve just measured the toolholders for my E set and the pins are 70mm apart, so yours must be the next size up, which is probably the B set.

[karl starkieParticipant @karlstarkie16701]

So the body is 90mm dia 65mm deep. And the pins are approx 85 in the loose position before tension is applied not 80 as I said earlier.

 

 

Anyone one know how to upload pictures from a iPad ?

Edited By karl starkie on 18/02/2021 20:36:38

[Steve PaveyParticipant @stevepavey65865]

Karl – Steve Lawes posted (on page 2, near the top) a link to a Multifix catalogue – I think page 5.jpg has some dimensions which you can compare to your particular model. Failing that, I would imagine that one of the suppliers might help you out – someone has said that the PeWe Guy is very helpful, and I know from experience that emailing Create Tools in China usually gets an answer.

Edited By Steve Pavey on 18/02/2021 21:28:23

[Dave Sawdon 1Participant @davesawdon1]

Dragging this thread back from the grave … I've been trying to find the Create Tools website but createtool.com has "Thank you for choosing our service, your space has expired, please renew as soon as possible, please notify us to open after renewal" – at least, that's what M'sieu Google says the characters mean. Is there an alternative way to contact them?

[Matt HarringtonParticipant @mattharrington87221]

CreateTool was (are?) based in Wuhan and I suggest that Covid has possibly put them out of business. There are other firms supplying holders etc on AliExpress or PeWe tools in Germany.

Matt

[Dave WoottonParticipant @davewootton]

Hi Dave

I bought a multifix clone set from PeWe tools last year, as they do a size which fits my Myford 254 perfectly, very pleased with the whole thing, can't recommend the toolpost and service highly enough.

There was a wait for the items to be stocked, but that was made clear at the time of ordering, and they turned up by the date promised.

Rotagrip do supply multifix posts but not in the size I required.

Dave

[Dave Sawdon 1Participant @davesawdon1]

Thanks for the replies.

Matt Harrington I may be showing my age, but Aliexpress always seems a bit too like the "wild west" ("wild east"?) for me, with unknown quality, difficult returns, potential import duties and long lead times … but that's all said without any real knowledge.

Dave Wootton I have a genuine Swiss A size Multifix set from a previous lathe and was hoping to use it on my new-to-me 254S, but the lathe centre-to-top slide distance is only 20mm. I haven't tried fitting it yet because I'm still repairing some things on the lathe but, according to this, it should be OK with 10mm tools … but only just.

I was interested in Create with the idea of selling my genuine Multifix and buying a more suitable size at Chinese prices – what size did you buy from PeWe and what did it cost?

BTW, I realise that I could remove the top slide and make a spacer but would prefer not to do that.

Dave

Edited By Dave Sawdon 1 on 17/11/2022 10:14:46

[JellyParticipant @jelly]

Posted by Dave Sawdon 1 on 17/11/2022 10:06:08:

Matt Harrington I may be showing my age, but Aliexpress always seems a bit too like the "wild west" ("wild east"?) for me, with unknown quality, difficult returns, potential import duties and long lead times … but that's all said without any real knowledge.

You have pretty much nailed it in fairness…

But, I'm actually pretty happy using it because there are a couple of things which de-risk AliExpress (compared to other sites doing direct from vendor in the far east like Wish or Banggood, and their own B2B sister AliBaba) IMO:

1. The dispute process is very E-Bay like, in that it's straightforward to raise a case and the company (who are acting as an escrow of sorts between buyer and seller to guarantee delivery) will generally refund goods which turn up damaged or not as described in photographs without question unless the seller specifically wants to send a replacement…
2. No Returns, just refund/replacement.
3. Presence and reputation on the platform itself is clearly very valuable to the more established vendors, so they go to some effort to ensure they're accurately representing what you'll get (within the confines of their English Language Skills at least).
4. Almost all serious vendors will happily have an email conversation and answer questions or post pictures to help you decide to buy, and the platform enables this.

With a bit of experience buying over the platform in order to get comfortable with how it works, and get a feel for what does/doesn't make for a good vendor/advert, then it's pretty safe; certainly no worse than eBay, just slower!

It's still worth doing some careful research before spending any serious money with an AliExpress vendor, but on the whole I find it to be a generally very positive experience, with some really interesting (and hard to otherwise obtain) products and equipment available inexpensively with relative ease.

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All this is to say that buying a comparatively expensive toolpost over AliExpress would definitely feel sketchy as a first purchase, and might not be the BEST way to ease yourself into it…

But in all likelihood you would actually be fine, and (based on when I was looking for more Multifix-B toolholders for my lathe) save 50-60% (accounting for Import Duty and VAT which are payble on both german and chinese origin goods alike these days) over the PeWe tools price…

For what I strongly suspect from the photographs and lead times are in fact the exact same product, but for branding.

[Joseph Noci 1Participant @josephnoci1]

Probably violate forum rules, etc, but …

A happy friend in Johannesburg obtained a dozen or so size A holders and the toolpost from these folk in June.

**LINK**

He says the holders also fit his orig Swiss toolpost just fine…He was also very content with the pricing..

Looks exactly like the Createtool product – maybe they renamed or were incorporated?

[DC31kParticipant @dc31k]

Posted by Joseph Noci 1 on 17/11/2022 11:46:58:

Looks exactly like the Createtool product – maybe they renamed or were incorporated?

Information straight from the horse's mouth end of Jan 2021 here. No further information since then:

https://www.practicalmachinist.com/forum/threads/multifix-toolholder-clone-review.222390/page-6#post-3700927

Edited By DC31k on 17/11/2022 12:53:40

[Paul RhodesParticipant @paulrhodes20292]

Create tools certainly have gone dark. My website enquiry two months ago and my direct email to Nina Wang received no reply. Thank you for the alternative suggestions.

[Martin Shaw 1Participant @martinshaw1]

I've just bough an aa set from Rotagrip with 4 toolholders and they were wiling to swap the v groove for a standard one for £340. Aliexpress obviously have a number of vendors but the same thing from them would cost me £340. So no great price saving there and perhaps a lot more security and peace of mind dealing with a well established company in Birmingham. Having said that I've no doubt you would get what you order from Aliexpress 99% of the time, sorting out the 1% would lose you the will to live. Interestingly they are not exactly the same, mine has a circlip at the top, the Aliex one has an expanding metal band.

Regards

Martin

[Dave WoottonParticipant @davewootton]

Hi Dave

The size I have is size AS, as far as I know PE-WE are the only suppliers for this size which suits my 254+ perfectly, I cannot remember the price I ordered the basic set and some extra toolholders, making a total of six and it was in the region of £350 ish I think, I did not have to pay any extra tax or import duty.

I've added a couple of pictures of the post fitted to my lathe, the toolholder in the pictures is 1/2" square, I added this because someone got very excercised on another forum saying only 10mm max tools could be used on one of these fitted to a 254, so the pic shows this is not the case. The set has had quite hard use over the past year with no problems, very satisfied with it.

A friend bought one of the Aliexpress sets for his Warco, not sure what model but larger than a mini lathe and not rusty, and although not as well finished as the PE-WE one it works well and he is very happy with it.

[Dave Sawdon 1Participant @davesawdon1]

Bit of a sidetrack but … I'm intrigued to see that spirit level device for finding centre height. Is it really better/easier/faster than trapping a 6" rule and making it vertical?

[Matt HarringtonParticipant @mattharrington87221]

I also have reminded myself that I have bought holders etc from paulimot.de :

Paulimot

Matt

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