Morse taper collets

[jonathan heppelParticipant @jonathanheppel43280]

[jonathan heppelParticipant @jonathanheppel43280]

Hello all. I'm trying to source decent MT2 collets. I've had some from one of the usual suspects and they're junk. I'm told Vertex is ok but nobody's got any.

I've definitely been put off mainland Chinese, so are there any suggestions?

[ronan walshParticipant @ronanwalsh98054]

What was the matter with the ones from the usual suspects ? I'd be interested to know myself as i want to buy some too.

[MadMikeParticipant @madmike]

Jonathan I don't know which of the usual suspec ts you purchased from, however if they are "junk" as you say then presumably you have complained and got a refund. Out of interest who did you get them from and what exactly was wrong with them?

In my case I bought a set of ER32 collets with MT2 from "one of the usual suspects". In my case it was Arc EuroTrade. They are absolutely spot on and this becomes even more evident when I randomly turn a test piece. The ArcEuroTrade collets have spot on repeatability. I have no connection with Arc Euro except as a very happy repeat customer.

[Ketan SwaliParticipant @ketanswali79440]

Posted by jonathan heppel on 27/10/2013 22:34:44:

Hello all. I'm trying to source decent MT2 collets. I've had some from one of the usual suspects and they're junk. I'm told Vertex is ok but nobody's got any.

I've definitely been put off mainland Chinese, so are there any suggestions?

Jonathan,

I don't know who you have purchased from, but you should re-consider before making sweeping statements like this.

Vertex MT2 collets are also made in mainland China. ARCs collets are made in China, and ARC has been selling MT2 collets now for about thirteen years from one single source. At best, I can only recall replacing two or three faulty MT2 collets out of thousands of MT2 collets we have sold during this period.

So, I for one will be grateful if you can please take more care before making comments which can effect 'the usual suspects' as you put it.

Ketan at ARC.

[MadMikeParticipant @madmike]

Ooooooops. Man fingers…….I meant to type "….I bought a set of ER32 and some MT2 collets………….it was ArcEuroTrade".

Like Ketan says sweeping statements almost incriminate everybody, thus my request to Jonathan to confirm his actions and to name the supplier.

[Howard LewisParticipant @howardlewis46836]

Yes, In what way are the collets "junk"?

If the tool or workpiece runs out, are all the male and female mating surfaces clean?

Maybe a daft question to ask, but is the collet going fully home, and being held fully home, in the female taper?

Purely as a comment, I am surprised by your problem, although there is a first time for everything, have never found any problem with MT collets.

Another comment, as a satisfied customer, I have never had any problem (other than difficulty releasing them after I have overtightend) with any of the Morse Tapers supplied by Arc EuroTrade; (and I have many).

Howard

[jonathan heppelParticipant @jonathanheppel43280]

I'm sorry if I caused any offense, and certainly all I've read of Arc Euro has been good. I probably overreacted because some months ago I had a collet from Chester which very much looked like someone else's return- no shipping grease and axial marks that suggested it had been pulled into a taper and it is a little soft also. The bore was really ugly, too. They replaced it with one I'd say was ok but only just. Then a few days ago I got another couple that looked similar to the first one, (no grease, scratches, rough bore) and they have agreed to replace them, too.

Also, I must confess that It was my second attempt at posting because the first time I pressed the "Add posting" button the posting was deleted and I was signed out, which did nothing to improve my mood.

The only other collets I have are Crawford or Hardinge and while I can"t expect similar quality at bargain basement prices and would gladly pay double for better, they seem not to be available..

Thanks for the reassurance, though. I was beginning to despair. I'll try another of the usual suspects.

[ronan walshParticipant @ronanwalsh98054]

I have bought tools such as collet chucks , morse taper adapters etc from rdg tools and was extremely wary because i knew the tools were of far eastern origin. They were all fine and to be honest better than i had expected. If you have a problem, send the goods back to where you bought them and demand better. How is a supplier to know the tools are not acceptable to customers if the customers don't return them and complain ? They can then demand better from the manufacturers.

[Ketan SwaliParticipant @ketanswali79440]

Hello Jonathan,

No offense taken, just thank you for the clarification.

Ketan at ARC.

[Phil H 1Participant @philh1]

Ive got 4 X MT2 collets with M10 threads from Chester and they are very good. Each one came in a two piece plastic case – in a bag – all greased up. They are hard, concentric and grip plain shank milling cutters with no problems. Have I been lucky?

PhilH

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