model carry/storage box

[old AlParticipant @oldal]

Hi

I am coming to the completion of my 2 1/2" gauge loco. What I need now is a carry box for it and its tender.

I wonder if their is a good place for designs for this type of box. I can work from a photo

[old AlParticipant @oldal]

[Ian S CParticipant @iansc]

There was an article or two in ME a few years back, I'v tried looking in the index, but could not find it. With a bit of thought, it should not be too hard, you need to know the size of the loco, and the size of the vehicle you are going to use. The loco needs to be positively fixed in the box, and the box must be fixed in place in the vehicle, so that nothing moves if there is a sudden stop. Ian S C

[old AlParticipant @oldal]

Thanks Ian

I Have the general shape and size in my mind, its just the Ironwork that I am a bit worried about.

I don't want to pin 4sides together and the bottom falls out, but on the other hand, I want to pick it up so I don't want overkill..

I need to take a camera to the next exhibition and search out some 2 1/2" stuff.

Alan

[old AlParticipant @oldal]

Hi John

Your version sounds very similar to some Gauge 1 boxes a friend has shown me. I think his gauge of ply was a bit thinner.

I think all I would need to do is to put some steel strapping round the box for the strength and something to hold the handle and im done.

Thanks

Alan

[Trevor Drabble 1Participant @trevordrabble1]

Alan,

Think you may be interested in talking to Moducarry on 01744 886105 or http://www.moducarry.com . Saw them at a model boat show where they were showing a range of plywood based padded carrying cases. Understand they also produce custom made cases.

[old AlParticipant @oldal]

Thanks Trevor

Nice system for other things, but I would be worried about my delicates. I really want a box that is light enough to carry mu loco in and act as a storage if I cant get the loco on my mantelpiece.

Alan

[BazyleParticipant @bazyle]

SInce 2&1/2 is relatively light you can take a differnet approach compared to a larger scale.

One posibility is to make a box where it is one side that opens by sliding a panel up and out. You then slide the loco towards you and out. The point of this is that you can replace the sliding side with a sheet of clear plastic turning it into a display box.
Next version is a 'nice' base plate including ballasted track over which the whole top box assembly fits. When used at the track it can be placed on the trackm the top unclipped, and the loco rolled forward down a little ramp.

[old AlParticipant @oldal]

Hi Bazyle

I have seen something like that and looking for something to refresh my memory better. The box I saw had the tender above the loco and a space for some tools.

But it also had a carrying handle.

Such is the advantage of the lightweight of the 2 1/2" loco.

Alan

[Sub MandrelParticipant @submandrel]

I would be tempted to make handles from nylon webbing that continue right under the box.

Neil

[old AlParticipant @oldal]

Thanks Neil

I agree, it does need some all round reinforcement

[SpringbokParticipant @springbok]

worthwhile if you are at the model shows comeing up haveing a chat with one of the exhibitors in your scale I am sure they will be pleased to show you
Bob

[old AlParticipant @oldal]

Yes , I understand they will be there. Always very approachable and keen to offer assistance. Its one of the reasons I started an engine in 2 1/2".

Im sure when its quiet, someone will dig out some carry cases for me to photograph.

[John McNamaraParticipant @johnmcnamara74883]

Hi Young Al

Below is a plywood carry case based on one I saw at an exhibition, There is room for two engines or carriages side by side when it is closed for transport. They sit on rails built into the case. Or if it is being used as a display case one can be shifted to the top. There is also a drawer. I guess you can make the case as long as you are able to lift it. It is probably an old idea but it worked well.

You would need to make restraining packers and or hold down straps to hold them in position for transport.It would need handles and catches on the sides and a piano hinge for the top. A handle on top would need to be recessed or it would get in the way when the case is open.

I guess you have noticed I am not a train builder!…. I do not have an accurate 3d image of a real engine so just sketched up a kids version. It was fun!

Regards
John

 

Edited By John McNamara on 10/12/2013 13:06:24

[old AlParticipant @oldal]

Hi

Thanks John.

Interesting idea. I think I have seen something similar. Your drawing gives me some ideas.

I think it might be obvious, that im a reluctant woodworker and this angled approach might be one step beyond. I like the side being removable for show. I don't want to put my loco in a box and forget it, its taken ages to build and im proud of it.

[Chris Pattison 1Participant @chrispattison1]

When facing the problem of shipping my Myford, I came up with a solution which may help here. Basically, I welded up a flat frame from angle iron onto which I then bolted the lathe. I then welded up a frame, shaped much like a table which went over the floor frame, with the legs bolting at the bottom to the flat frame. In this way I had a sturdy cocoon which protected the machine and would even take stuff being stacked on top of it. I could see this concept working for you, with suitable rail and hold-downs on the base frame. No need to put handles on it if you leave the frame open.

[Speedy Builder5Participant @speedybuilder5]

I would also think about ventilation. You don't want to put a warm engine into a closed box and hope that condensation doesn't spoil it.

BobH

[julian atkinsParticipant @julianatkins58923]

hi 'old al',

all my locos are in a standard type of carrying box known as the 'Bert Brock' standard, very popular in the SMEE. the loco is attached via threaded coupling to a wooden base over the drawhooks or dummy drawbar fixed to the base, and tender likewise on another base. a hollow box of hardboard secured together with plastic angle and pop rivets fits on top . the base has steel brackets for handles attached to the upper hard board box. if i get a chance i'll take some pics.

cheers,

julian

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