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  • #233485
    Windy
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      @windy30762

      I require some clamping for a 8" x 9" x 5" thick 2014 aluminium I need the top to be clear to machine a flat surface I don't want to drill or put slots etc. in it for clamps yet.

      Have looked at T slot clamps that would put downward pressure on the edge of the block for light milling and thought about making similar type of clamps but require simple clamps as I don't want to spend too much time making tooling for a one off job.

      Suppose if available a cheap pair of removable vice jaws to clamp on the milling machine table would work.

      For a one off expensive tools or clamps are out.

      Suggestions of a simple clamping arrangement and maybe a drawing would be appreciated.

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      #15843
      Windy
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        @windy30762
        #233486
        Ady1
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          @ady1

          The simplest I can think of is use 4 to 6 standard clamps and move them out of the way as the job progresses

          #233487
          John Stevenson 1
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            @johnstevenson1

            Windy,

            Take a read of this post for some ideas.

            **LINK**

            #233490
            John Reese
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              @johnreese12848

              About a year ago I had a similar setup problem. I found a 2 piece vise for about $44 at Enco. It was rather crudely made, but it got the job done. I don't know if Enco sells in the UK. Probably one of the European vendors handles a similar product.

              #233491
              Thor 🇳🇴
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                @thor

                Hi WIndy,

                For clamping larger work I use these home made clamps:

                clamps_04.jpg

                I clamp the work between one or two angle plates and the clamps. The photo shows one clamp dismantled.

                Thor

                #233494
                Sam Longley 1
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                  @samlongley1

                  Could you not get 2 pieces of 1/2 inch thick bar ( could be a bit thinner) 9 inches long & pass 2 pieces of 8mm studding through them each end, each with a nut & washer on the ends, so the studding just clears the sides of the block. ( possibly have some shims to protect the side of the block from the studding threads).

                  The bars would be on opposite sides of the stock. Then really tighten them to the block a couple of mm up from the bottom. Then use ordinary clamps to hold the 2 bars down.

                  Or does that make the machinists on the forum cringe??

                  Edited By Sam Longley 1 on 06/04/2016 07:29:55

                  #233495
                  JasonB
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                    @jasonb

                    Another vote for angle plate/plates

                     

                    Edited By JasonB on 06/04/2016 07:35:14

                    #233514
                    Windy
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                      @windy30762

                      Thanks for the suggestions I like Thor's clamps I tried to read JS link but get This page can’t be displayed.

                      Looking through my materials (scrap) I found some steel to make Thor's type of clamps or a crude pair of removable vice jaws.

                      A change of tack from metal munching tonight a young friend is giving a talk about the history of the Cornet at P.E.E.M.S. club he restores vintage ones to a playable condition.

                      There will also be a mention about ice cream ones as well.laugh

                      Apart from that he's a right petrol-head and has a 1970 TR6 he's restored plus he has taken me to Coniston speed week a few times to see the full size speed record boats.

                      Likewise I've taken him to Elvington to talk to and watch the bike and car record attempt competitors.

                      It's good to see younger generations having a practical interest in mechanical things he now has a small lathe so when time is available he can make bits for his TR.

                       

                      Edited By Windy on 06/04/2016 10:12:31

                      #233516
                      Russell Eberhardt
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                        @russelleberhardt48058

                        A few ideas here.

                        Russell.

                        #233517
                        Martin Connelly
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                          @martinconnelly55370

                          Windy, did you see the Warhorse monowheel at Elvington? I have made a lot of the parts for it.

                          Martin

                          #233531
                          Windy
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                            @windy30762

                            Got some ideas now for clamping I've seen Warhorse a few times I wonder what would happen if the rider opened the throttle two sharp would he go round in circleslaugh

                            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5x597VpbjK4

                            As usual you start on one thread and go off at a tangent to something else

                            2015_072121july2015elvington0002.jpg.

                            Edited By Windy on 06/04/2016 13:36:41

                            #233543
                            Neil Wyatt
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                              @neilwyatt

                              I'd be more worried about locking the brakes*… one machine where being the guy who ate all the pies is a big plus

                              Neil

                               

                              (*or running out of shoe leather).

                              Edited By Neil Wyatt on 06/04/2016 16:00:25

                              #233566
                              Martin Connelly
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                                @martinconnelly55370

                                I was asked if I wanted to have a drive/ride, I declined the offer.

                                Martin

                                #233637
                                Ian S C
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                                  @iansc

                                  Saw a similar mono wheel on an American Auction TV show.

                                  Ian S C

                                  #233645
                                  David Colwill
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                                    @davidcolwill19261
                                    Posted by Windy on 06/04/2016 13:20:35:

                                    Got some ideas now for clamping I've seen Warhorse a few times I wonder what would happen if the rider opened the throttle two sharp would he go round in circleslaugh

                                    It's called gerbiling smile p

                                    David.

                                    #233653
                                    Muzzer
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                                      @muzzer

                                      They seem to be a "look at me" machine from where I'm standing and you couldn't sensibly go anywhere on one.

                                      On that note, I'd really love to see a monowheel motorbike, rather like a conventional motorbike with only one wheel. It would take some talent to ride (someone like Rossi might manage it) although modern closed loop software and gyro / accelerometer technology would make it more manageable. I'm trying to imagine racing them…

                                      There are sort of similar things out there but they are more like a hoverboard than a motor unicycle.

                                      #234600
                                      Windy
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                                        @windy30762

                                        Made some clamps and used them today holding 8" x 9" x 5" 2014 aluminium really stretching the VMC but will overcome it's limitations.

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                                        #234601
                                        mike T
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                                          @miket56243

                                          They look to be a very sensible set of clamps you had to make.

                                          That is an enormous block of 2014, it should take you a long time to reduce that to a pile of small chips

                                          Mike

                                          #234614
                                          Windy
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                                            @windy30762
                                            Posted by mike T on 14/04/2016 14:45:27:

                                            They look to be a very sensible set of clamps you had to make.

                                            That is an enormous block of 2014, it should take you a long time to reduce that to a pile of small chips

                                            Mike

                                            I've two billets to play with to make a crankcase after seeing my friends cnc machining bigger billets for an turbine 2 wheel streamliner I think what have I let myself in for using a manual mill.

                                            But it's a challenge.

                                            Paul

                                            #234615
                                            jimmy b
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                                              @jimmyb
                                              Posted by Thor on 06/04/2016 06:31:31:

                                              Hi WIndy,

                                              For clamping larger work I use these home made clamps:

                                              clamps_04.jpg

                                              I clamp the work between one or two angle plates and the clamps. The photo shows one clamp dismantled.

                                              Thor

                                              neat idea.

                                              yet another one for the job list

                                              #234877
                                              Windy
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                                                @windy30762

                                                Used the clamps today on the ally block to machine datum faces used fly cutter removing about 0.006" to clean and align faces.

                                                Next will get the boring head out and bore the Ø85mm bearing housing and Ø166mm crankshaft mouth there will be a lot of swarf.

                                                Will make a go no go gauge for the bearing housing as well.

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