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    Howi
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      @howi

      Nice to see another Middleton engine, I still class myself as a beginner so it is an ideal engine to have a go at. The last one I built was the Middleton V4, a nice lump of an engine.

      Don't know if anyone has spotted the deliberate mistake yet!!!

      Page 286 Engine Frames (Fig 6)

      "I started with four pieces of 5 X 41/4 inches 3/8 inch thick aluminium plate"

      Oh! No! you didn't sad

      page 288 shows them to be 5 X 41/2 inches

      Guess what I cut mine to!!! angry

      What a numpty!

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      #37735
      Howi
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        @howi
        #314883
        Eric Cox
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          @ericcox50497

          There's an old adage, "read twice, cut once"

          #314884
          JasonB
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            @jasonb

            Howi there is a slight revision to those frame drawings should be in the next issue 4569 but if you are eager to get on let me know and I'll upload the revised drawing. If you ask really nicely I can do a special to suit your small bits of ali.

            Since I spotted that I have cast an eye over the rest and made a few more corrections for Diane so rest should be OK though I have not read the text.

            #314890
            Howi
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              @howi

              Hi JasonB

              That would be much appreciated, I have not been in the workshop for a few months, due to lots of jobs around the house. I thought this would be the ideal project to get my interest stimulated again.

              It is a nice looking engine and all bar stock apart from the flywheel, although I have fabricated flywheels, you can't beat a bit of cast iron.

              I have cut and squared up 4 pieces of aluminium to my wrong dimensions (ho hum!) and only noticed my mistake when I started to mark up the first piece. Thought I was going bonkers, it was getting late so thought, put it down and draw it up on graph paper and try and see what I was doing wrong – that's when i noticed my boo boo.

              I can probably attach a 1/4 inch piece at the short end somehow on all 4 pieces then mark out again.

              That will teach me to go racing ahead without my thinking cap on. embarrassed

              #314906
              JasonB
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                @jasonb

                The main issue with the frame drawing was that the hole for the valve rocker arm was in the wrong place and the 7/8" height of the lower corner was wrong. I have only shown the wrong items, rest is as per the mag

                Revised drawing

                Howi I think you will mave to see if you can add a bit on or move the cylinder mounting hole along a bit as it comes right on the edge, 1/8" further up should do it. but this shows the revised height of the end for a 4.25" frame

                Howi's drawing

                Edited By JasonB on 02/09/2017 12:47:37

                #314915
                Howi
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                  @howi

                  That's super, thanks Jason, will have a peruse and see which is the best way to go.

                  many thanks once again

                  Howi

                  #314919
                  JasonB
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                    @jasonb

                    Another option would be to increase the central gap to 1" as below, or you could go 3/4" which would give you a bit more where the cylinder mounts.

                    howi frames.jpg

                    #314945
                    Howi
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                      @howi

                      Thanks Jason, that's an option worth consideration.

                      Many thanks once again

                      Howi

                      #315010
                      Howi
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                        @howi

                        Have gone with shaving 1/8inch off either side as the best compromise.

                        Just got to sneek into the workshop now.

                        #315012
                        JasonB
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                          @jasonb

                          Sneak this in with you, it's got the 1/8" off either side

                          howis frame.jpg

                          Edited By JasonB on 03/09/2017 13:32:32

                          #315063
                          Howi
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                            @howi

                            Amazing, thank you – I owe you big time for this face 1

                            #613417
                            Michael Scott 2
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                              @michaelscott2

                              Hi every one

                              I have been cutting metal for the Middleton V Twin for more years than i want to own up to and have just reached the stage where I would like to make the eccentric sheave and discover that I do not have the drawing for it

                              Can any-one help me out please?

                              Michael

                              #613548
                              JasonB
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                                @jasonb

                                Here you go

                                middleton sheave.jpg

                                #613600
                                Michael Scott 2
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                                  @michaelscott2

                                  Many thanks for a very rapid response

                                  I cannot see or print the whole page

                                  Michael

                                  #613690
                                  JasonB
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                                    @jasonb

                                    this is the hole of fig10, click and it should come up larger

                                    mid fig 10.jpg

                                    #613693
                                    Michael Scott 2
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                                      @michaelscott2

                                      Many , many thanks.

                                      I always meet such nice people on technical Forums

                                      Michaael

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