Metalworking files – Guidance required please

[Adrian GilesParticipant @adriangiles39248]

My most useful file is the Oregon 12211, 6" flat file, sold as the file to use on the depth gauges of chain saw chains. Very handy size, lasts well!

Always used to buy Sandvik & Oberg when my company carried them, "Farmers Friend" takes me back a few years too!

Adrian.

[Neil WyattModerator @neilwyatt]

You need to try a jewellers.. Cooksongold have a 55mm Vallorbe escapement file

http://www.cooksongold.com/Jewellery-Tools/Vallorbe-55mm-Escapement-File—–Round-Cut-6-prcode-999-546

[JasonBModerator @jasonb]

Posted by Neil Wyatt on 12/11/2017 22:41:47:

You need to try a jewellers.. Cooksongold have a 55mm Vallorbe escapement file

http://www.cooksongold.com/Jewellery-Tools/Vallorbe-55mm-Escapement-File—–Round-Cut-6-prcode-999-546

Keep up Neil, about a page ago we established that the 55mm is length of the business end not the O/A length

[roy entwistleParticipant @royentwistle24699]

Sorry Jason but the overall length is 55mm

Roy

[TrickyParticipant @tricky]

Cousins are very good for anything to do with clocks and watches and have a good range of files. link

Richard

[Michael GilliganParticipant @michaelgilligan61133]

Posted by roy entwistle on 13/11/2017 08:55:25:

Sorry Jason but the overall length is 55mm

Roy

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It would help enormously if these dealers quoted the Vallorbe [et al] part numbers for what they sell.

MichaelG.

[Michael GilliganParticipant @michaelgilligan61133]

Posted by Neil Wyatt on 12/11/2017 22:41:47:

You need to try a jewellers.. Cooksongold have a 55mm Vallorbe escapement file

http://www.cooksongold.com/Jewellery-Tools/Vallorbe-55mm-Escapement-File—–Round-Cut-6-prcode-999-546

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For the avoidance of doubt increase of uncertainty: Vallorbe illustrates just four shapes of Escapement File [which are identified as such by having square-section handles]. … But the text claims that more are available 

The details are on the page that Jason linked yesterday.

http://vallorbe.cross-systems.ch/en-ch/products/files/escapement-files

 

MichaelG.

P.S. … Whilst killing time in the Doctor's waiting-room: I checked the list of U.K. dealers/distributors for 'Jewellery & Watchmaking' files:

http://vallorbe.cross-systems.ch/en-ch/dealers

… A list of four companies, not previously known to me.

Edited By Michael Gilligan on 13/11/2017 10:34:59

[mark smith 20Participant @marksmith20]

If you look at the vallorbe catalogue the 100mm total length ,3 square needle files are only 2.8mm across the flats .Such as LA2407 . They don`t seem to give the measurements for the escapement files.

[Michael GilliganParticipant @michaelgilligan61133]

Posted by mark smith 20 on 13/11/2017 10:43:10:

If you look at the vallorbe catalogue the 100mm total length ,3 square needle files are only 2.8mm across the flats .Such as LA2407 . They don`t seem to give the measurements for the escapement files.

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Sorry, Mark … I'm getting really confused now

I've just checked LA2407 in the 2017 Catalogue

MichaelG.

[mark smith 20Participant @marksmith20]

There seems to be alot of different catalogues on google heres the link to the one i looked at.

Its at the bottom of page 33 of this document (not the page counter at the top of the pdf reader)

**LINK**

[Michael GilliganParticipant @michaelgilligan61133]

Posted by mark smith 20 on 13/11/2017 12:15:46:

There seems to be alot of different catalogues on google heres the link to the one i looked at.

Its at the bottom of page 33 of this document (not the page counter at the top of the pdf reader)

**LINK**

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Very interesting, Mark … Thanks

The mystery deepens

MichaelG.

[JasonBModerator @jasonb]

I suppose if you could get one of the files with the files with the 35mm or 40mm cutting length then you could just chop of part of the 100mm long handle to get the 2.5" O/A length you want.

Something like the LE3014-40-6 would do.

J

[roy entwistleParticipant @royentwistle24699]

Talking to H S Walsh I am told that they are known as 'second hole files.' They only have round and square

Thanks all

Roy

Edited By roy entwistle on 13/11/2017 16:36:10

[Michael GilliganParticipant @michaelgilligan61133]

Posted by roy entwistle on 13/11/2017 16:25:43:

Talking to H S Walsh I am told that they are known as 'second hole files.' They only do round and square

Thanks all

Roy

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Thanks for sharing that, Roy.

MichaelG.

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Edit: Using the correct search term quickly located this little gem:

" The Bergeon Assortment of 12 round second hole files come with a round profile and are ued to file second hands. They too come encased in a steel tube. "

https://tomorrow4u.wordpress.com/category/technology/

I dare not contemplate the price.

 

Edited By Michael Gilligan on 13/11/2017 16:36:42

[mark smith 20Participant @marksmith20]

looks like they no longer make 3 square files of the type your looking for. Would the 100mm total length vallorbe with 2.8mm across flats not do ,only around 0.4 mm difference in cross section.

[Neil WyattModerator @neilwyatt]

$190 dollars for a set of a dozen

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