Mashstroy C210T / Warco 220 help please

[Peter G. ShawParticipant @peterg-shaw75338]

Roger,

 

I used to have a swarf catching tray, but it kept getting in the way so I abandoned it.

 

I noted when I stripped the lathe a few months ago that the saddle lock used a piece of brass or copper. Ditto the three mandrel locking screws, hence that is what I would try initially. Other than that, perhaps a bit of shoe sole or heel material – that is usually quite hard wearing. Or maybe a piece of leather. Don’t think a rubbery material would do as it might be too flexible. Nor would “plastic” – too slippery. Food for thought!

 

Chris,

 

Welcome to the 220 club.

 

Regards,

 

Peter

[Chris HembryParticipant @chrishembry84309]

Peter,

 

Have now checked my lathe, and no screw is fitted so perhaps it was only fitted on the first 100 machines.

 

Regards, Chris

[Peter G. ShawParticipant @peterg-shaw75338]

Hi Chris,

 

Yes, it does indeed look as if it was only the earlier machines which had the screw fitted. Still intend to try it on mine though, but heaven alone knows when it will be – I seem to spend a lot of time doing other stuff (including reading threads on the internet).

 

Regards,

 

Peter G. Shaw

[Alan LewendonParticipant @alanlewendon60235]

Can anyone recommend a quick change tool post for this lathe? Incidentally, I purchased mine in 1992 and it's serial no 083,

Alan

[Roger MountainParticipant @rogermountain33705]

Hi Alan,

Yes I would recommend a Dickson (think that's how it's spelt), see my photos. It makes setting the cutting tool on centre so easy I wouldn't be without mine. In order to fit it to the lathe you will need to make up a new threaded mounting bush for the top slide and if you want to use the standard tool post bolt you will have to bush the the top of the tool post. Also you may have to take a skim off the tool post bolt to clear the dickson locking cams. None of these mods are irreversible and you can easily refit the original 4 position tool post if required.

Regards, Roger

[Peter G. ShawParticipant @peterg-shaw75338]

Hi Alan,

Welcome to the forum, and particularly this thread.

What do you think of this lathe?

Regards,

Peter G. Shaw

[SpringbokParticipant @springbok]

Have a look a grizzly.com you should be able to downllad a better manual

bob

[IvyParticipant @ivy]

Posted by Springbok on 16/06/2012 15:35:47:

Have a look a grizzly.com you should be able to downllad a better manual

bob

I don't see any reference to Mashtroy/Warco 220 lathes there.

[Matthew Turner 1Participant @matthewturner1]

On a related note, does anyone know what type of collets the quick change uses? Doesn't seem to be in "Machinerys Handbook" anywhere, and it's not in the manual.

I've got the full set of metric, but a few imperial sizes would be more usefull to me.

Better yet, has anyone ordered extra collets?

Regards,

Matt Turner

[Peter G. ShawParticipant @peterg-shaw75338]

Hi Matt,

Ulf in Sweden, who also has a 220, wanted to know about the collets. He did some digging and found some information which he then sent to me by fax. If you send me your email address via the private message system, I can forward them to you if you wish. Be warned though that they are are copies of a fax and hence not perhaps the best.

For what it's worth, I use the Direct MT3 collets.

Regards,

Peter G. Shaw

[kevin largeParticipant @kevinlarge76611]

Hi guys just wondering if you guys still have your 220s

[kevin largeParticipant @kevinlarge76611]

Hi guys just wondering if you guys still have your 220s

[Alan LewendonParticipant @alanlewendon60235]

I still have mine.

[kevin largeParticipant @kevinlarge76611]

How do you find it any tips for this lathe and have you tryed screw cutting on yours

Kevin

[Chris HembryParticipant @chrishembry84309]

Yes Kevin, still up and running here, but only as a back-up lathe. Did some screw-cutting couple of weeks ago without any difficulty.

Chris

[kevin largeParticipant @kevinlarge76611]

I have a copy of manual on a cd but it’s not very clear especially the page on fitting the changes gears etc any help on what gear is what would be appreciated
kevin

[Nicholas FarrParticipant @nicholasfarr14254]

Hi Kevin, this scan may be a bit clearer **LINK**

Regards Nick.

[kevin largeParticipant @kevinlarge76611]

Many thanks nick just have make sure I get the right z no.
kevin

[Nicholas FarrParticipant @nicholasfarr14254]

Hi Kevin, it's not so hard as it looks. z1 is permanently attached to the mandrel, as you may be aware, z6 always goes on the lead screw. z2 & z3 are coupled together, but sometimes they are just a single gear and the same goes for z4 & z5. The two dots : shown between each pair on the little diagram are the ones that mesh together. So on a 0.8 mm thread, in the columns z2 & z3 shows a 40 tooth gear, this becomes a combined gear and one side will mesh with z1 and the other side will mesh with z3.

Hope this helps a little bit more.

Regards Nick.

Edited By Nicholas Farr on 07/04/2015 14:40:41

[kevin largeParticipant @kevinlarge76611]

Thanks nick I’ve noticed that all the change gears have bits on the back like engagement dogs but 1 just has shoulder what’s this odd 1 for
kevin

[Nicholas FarrParticipant @nicholasfarr14254]

Hi Kevin, if it is marked as z32, it is most likely the one that is put into the gear train between the z1 on the mandrel and z2 on the rest of the train so that left hand threads can be cut. shown in the top right of this **LINK**

Regards Nick.

Edited By Nicholas Farr on 07/04/2015 18:55:07

[kevin largeParticipant @kevinlarge76611]

ah ok it makes sense now just need to get it wired up correctly and I can have a go

many thanks kevin

[James HounslowParticipant @jameshounslow14375]

Well I am between 5 and 9 years late to this post.

I have just picked up a Warco 220 for pretty much silly money. It has come from a school and appears to have had very little use, which is always nice

The downside is that it did not come with any tooling, or screwcutting gears. I knew this when I bought it.

The second downside is that (probably for reasons of safety) the school un-installed the lead-screw drive mechanism. It is missing the gear which meshes with the spindle splines, the one with the 3 small pulleys for the 'friction disc' to engage in.

Does anyone still have one of these lathes, and if so, would it be possible to have the dimensions and tooth count of this gear so I can make up a new one?.

Many thanks

James

[Tim HyndmanParticipant @timhyndman57976]

Hi James,

I think you are after a 64 tooth gear. I am installing a 220 vs and trying to work out the screw cutting gears. I found your post and took some pictures. I could draw up this gear if you still need the info?

Regards, Tim.

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