Machine Manuals

[James BParticipant @jamesb]

Hi All,

 

I have been thinking that a useful facility for Model Engineers would be an area where people can upload, share and download machinery manuals – more for the older machine tools, bridgeports and the like – I now have most of the ones I need, but knowing how much searching some of these took, it would be good to share these for others in the same position.

 

My question is would other people be interested in this, and also if there are copyright reasons why this would not be possible?

 

Maybe as an area on this site, or set up on a seperate website?

 

What are your thoughts?

 

James

Edited By James Burden on 09/06/2011 10:15:33

[James BParticipant @jamesb]

[Thor 🇳🇴Participant @thor]

Hi James,

 

I think it is a good idea. For some manuals the company holding the copyright probably doesn’t exist any longer, and these shouldn’t pose a problem. If the company still exist I think there will be copyright issues.

 

Thor

[macmarchParticipant @macmarch]

Excellent idea James. When I had a problem with my BH600 I needed to know how the saddle was put together. I downloaded a manual that was better than that supplied.

As its a current model I wonder how they get/got round the copyright problem.

 

http://www.grizzly.com

 

[BERT ASHTONParticipant @bertashton57372]

Somewhere on
this site there is a Machine Tool Manual section. But very hard to find. I
spent a lot of time and effort both scanning then burning to a DVD the Deckel FP3
milling machine manual. The deputy editor, at the time, published it on this
site, recently its gone missing I
emailed Diane who replied saying that it was still there But I still can’t find
it. Is it a copyright problem Mr Editor ?. Bert Ashton.

[David Clark 13Participant @davidclark13]

Hi There

Not a copyright problem.

I will see where it is later.

regards david

 

[Stephen BensonParticipant @stephenbenson75261]

Tony Griffith at http://www..lathes,co,uk sells maunals I bought one for my Downham Jig Borer not a photocopy but the pucker manual I was well pleased.

[DerryUKParticipant @derryuk]

<When I had a problem with my BH600 I needed to know how the saddle was put together. I downloaded a manual that was better than that supplied.As its a current model I wonder how they get/got round the copyright problem>

Is your BH600 manual copyrighted? I have two Warco machines, lathe and mill but not a 600, but neither manual is copyrighted. I would add here that it would be a damn cheek to copyright either as they are both rubbish manuals.

I agree that a manual section would be useful and further up the profile of this website.

Derry.

[DericParticipant @deric]

Best thing about the ‘Manuals’ for my Warco mill and lathe are that they give you a good laugh.

It’s not that information is ‘lost in translation’ it’s that nobody at Warco hasn’t even tried to translate them into meaningful English. Let alone add some useful information to them like oils or adjustments.

 

However, you are most welcome to share them with me and I would willing upload them.

[macmarchParticipant @macmarch]

Derry, My Warco manual has no apparent copyright marks but the manual from Grizzly is copyright 2008. I downloaded it with no problems. Out of interest the Grizzly manual is 96 pages and includes things like a very detailed instruction on resetting the head bearings to get the preload correct.

 

 

[DerryUKParticipant @derryuk]

I’ve spoken over the phone and on visits with a couple of people at Warco and they knew their stuff. Sad then that they don’t write their own manuals, it only has to be done once for each machine. Think of the kudos they would achieve. I used to occasionally produce technical documents for my company (I am now retired) and I would rather have died than send out what Warco do, come to that I think my boss would have personally killed me if I had!!

 

Still, a good idea of James though, at times any manual is better than no manual.

 

Derry.

[John Stevenson 1Participant @johnstevenson1]

Already done.

 

One on the Practical machinist site.

 

PM Manual site

 

And another one here.

 

Metal Illness site

 

John S.

[DerryUKParticipant @derryuk]

Sadly they don’t have anything for Warco (or dare I say it, Myford)

 

Derry.

[Philip PowellParticipant @philippowell34749]

It might be worth looking for a Yahoo Group for whatever machine manual you are looking for. I’m a member of the Smart & Brown and Boxford user groups. Both are a mine of information and have a libary of manuals, also the groups are subscribed by people who also use these machine.

 

Phil.

[TerrydParticipant @terryd72465]

I agree with Philip, Many of the user groups on Yahoo have archives for manuals etc. As well as those mentioned by Philip there is the 9×20 mini-lathe user group and others. I believe that there is also a Myford user group but I’ve never bothered with that one . The software used to power this site is not so sophisticated and does not cater for such archives and storage of files etc.

Also many of the lathes and milling machines sold by Warco are generic Chinese lathes which are badge engineered for retailers at source Many of those lathes are also sold by Grizzly in the US with different labels. Grizzly have an archive of their user manuals free to download in pdf format on their website (unlike most UK traders who haven’t yet come across the term ‘Customer Service’ and would be extremely confused by such a concept, but prefer to squeeze as much blood out of the stone as possible).

Regards

T

Edited By Terryd on 10/06/2011 10:37:15

[DerryUKParticipant @derryuk]

<Out of interest the Grizzly manual>

Thanks for that tip Ray, I have downloaded Grizzly equivalent manuals for both my Warco lathe and mill.

Derry.

[M0BNDParticipant @m0bnd]

Hi anyone!

I am looking for a manual for a FC3200 – RiPu Precision lathe.

Having no luck so far, does anyone have any links for me to try?

Thanks in advance.

Andy.

[David Clark 13Participant @davidclark13]

Hi there

The Deckel mill manual is still here.

**LINK**

regards David

[chris jParticipant @chrisj]

Posted by Terryd on 10/06/2011 10:35:28:

I agree with Philip, Many of the user groups on Yahoo have archives for manuals etc. As well as those mentioned by Philip there is the 9×20 mini-lathe user group and others. I believe that there is also a Myford user group but I've never bothered with that one . The software used to power this site is not so sophisticated and does not cater for such archives and storage of files etc.

Also many of the lathes and milling machines sold by Warco are generic Chinese lathes which are badge engineered for retailers at source Many of those lathes are also sold by Grizzly in the US with different labels. Grizzly have an archive of their user manuals free to download in pdf format on their website (unlike most UK traders who haven't yet come across the term 'Customer Service' and would be extremely confused by such a concept, but prefer to squeeze as much blood out of the stone as possible).

Regards

T

Edited By Terryd on 10/06/2011 10:37:15

I must agree, thank goodness for Grizzly.

I bought a Warco s/h without a manual. Now I have Grizzly one.

Thanks for the tip.

Chris

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[Sub MandrelParticipant @submandrel]

Derry,

Under UK copyright law all published material is copyright unless it is explicitly waived. You don't need to mark it as such.This is why we aren't as badly plagued by the (c) (r) TM symbols as the Americans!

The answer to copyright issues is simple in the age of the internet – just post a link to the legitimate source of the manual!

Neil

[SpringbokParticipant @springbok]

try grizzly.com for manuals

[David ColwillParticipant @davidcolwill19261]

Surely the copyright isn't an issue if you just supply a link to it. Also there is no need to store all of the manuals. A page of information as to where the manuals can be found is all that is needed.

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