Logging in to forum

[not done it yetParticipant @notdoneityet]

5th time!

[Neil WyattModerator @neilwyatt]

Posted by not done it yet on 23/02/2019 23:32:23:

5th time!

I'll log you out again if you keep posting these messages

Check something isn't clearing your cookies.

Neil

[Mick HenshallParticipant @mickhenshall99321]

Tried ticking remember me box, which doesn't always appear, lasted for a while then I am logged out,but I can live with it

Mick 🇬🇧

[not done it yetParticipant @notdoneityet]

What is a cookies? I know nothing about any special settings. It is the only forum which kicks me off several times a day – sometimes. Sometimes it stays logged in all day and multiple days on occasion. At one time it stayed logged in for days on end regularly, but there was a sudden, unsolicited, change.

It has stayed logged in from early this am, although I have been back to bed since!

Perhaps I should try using my wife’s old windows laptop? My old tablet is switched off.

My wife’s old lap top was off – battery was flat. I’m now going to log off from my tablet and use her old laptop to see if there is a difference. Hopefully only need to report back in a fewcdays time.

[SillyOldDufferModerator @sillyoldduffer]

Posted by not done it yet on 24/02/2019 12:37:56:

What is a cookies?

I know nothing about any special settings.

…

A cookie is a file stored on your computer. They are used by Browsers and Web servers to store information within a session or across several sessions. Information like: are you already logged in, have you visited this website page before, and the content of a partly filled out a form. Loads more reasons – used for any situation where a web browser / web site needs to remember something. Although they can be 'persistent' cookies usually come with a time limit, after which they are deleted. Can cause "interesting" effects if your computer's clock is wrong.

Normally cookies aren't of interest to the user but there are exceptions.

First, cookies are a security and privacy risk. Consequently your Browser and any AntiVirus or privacy software you happen to be running are deeply interested in them. They have settings that block or delete cookies believed to be intrusive.

Secondly, all computer systems have limits. The cookie specification says your computer & browser should store at least 300 cookies of at least 4000 bytes each, and allow at least 20 cookies per server. If your computer runs out of cookie space, it may behave oddly. For example: you login to a website, and the website sends you a cookie confirming that. Then the server checks the cookie to see if you are logged in for whatever the lifetime of the cookie is. If your computer runs out of cookie space, or an anti-virus, anti-tracking, privacy , or speed-up program deletes the cookie, you are no longer logged in.

Thirdly, sometimes cookies get corrupted. This can cause much weirdness.

Everything you need to know about cookies here

Very likely you don't know much about your system settings, there are thousands of them. Most are set by software which is great until something goes wrong. It can be hard to pin down cookie problems. Several different things mess with them and they can be damaged, perhaps by a network problem.

May be worth telling your browser to clear cookies because doing so should fix space and corruption problems. The downside is it will also have you re-entering stuff again. How clearing out is done varies by Browser. Firefox hides it away under Menu->Library->History->Clear Recent History. Plenty of info on the web about how other browsers do it. On Windows, software like ccleaner will clean cookies and it may be easier to use.

The other thing that might help is switching to another browser: it has it's own cookie space, which could be clean.

Dave

[Neil WyattModerator @neilwyatt]

Posted by not done it yet on 24/02/2019 12:37:56:

What is a cookies? I know nothing about any special settings. It is the only forum which kicks me off several times a day – sometimes. Sometimes it stays logged in all day and multiple days on occasion. At one time it stayed logged in for days on end regularly, but there was a sudden, unsolicited, change.

It has stayed logged in from early this am, although I have been back to bed since!

Perhaps I should try using my wife’s old windows laptop? My old tablet is switched off.

My wife’s old lap top was off – battery was flat. I’m now going to log off from my tablet and use her old laptop to see if there is a difference. Hopefully only need to report back in a fewcdays time.

Swapping computers will almost always log you off.

Neil

[not done it yetParticipant @notdoneityet]

Is that true, even though I will not be logged in (to this forum) at all on my tablet for the coming next few days? I would hope that is not the case!

[Michael GilliganParticipant @michaelgilligan61133]

Posted by not done it yet on 24/02/2019 17:42:02:

Is that true, even though I will not be logged in (to this forum) at all on my tablet for the coming next few days? I would hope that is not the case!

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To put it a different way: If and when you log in using any device, 'the system' automatically logs you out on the previous device. … you cannot be concurrently logged-in on two devices.

MichaelG.

[not done it yetParticipant @notdoneityet]

Posted by Michael Gilligan on 24/02/2019 19:17:36:

To put it a different way: If and when you log in using any device, 'the system' automatically logs you out on the previous device. … you cannot be concurrently logged-in on two devices.

MichaelG.

I know that. I was not referring to that. I will be reading on the tablet and only posting from the laptop.

I will be using two devices but only logged in (to post replies) on the laptop. Got it?

[Michael GilliganParticipant @michaelgilligan61133]

Posted by not done it yet on 24/02/2019 20:20:34:

Posted by Michael Gilligan on 24/02/2019 19:17:36:

To put it a different way: If and when you log in using any device, 'the system' automatically logs you out on the previous device. … you cannot be concurrently logged-in on two devices.

MichaelG.

I know that. I was not referring to that. I will be reading on the tablet and only posting from the laptop.

I will be using two devices but only logged in (to post replies) on the laptop. Got it?

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Sorry I even tried to help !!

… Have a nice day

MichaelG.

[Chris TriceParticipant @christrice43267]

I've just had the forum tell me I need to reset my password for the third time this week and one of my posts I made earlier today has disappeared.

[Chris TriceParticipant @christrice43267]

Actually forget that last bit. I suspect I was censored.

[not done it yetParticipant @notdoneityet]

Well, since my last post on this thread I have only been logged in on the wife's old laptop – I've read the forum on my tablet but not replied from it.

Only after a couple of days, the laptop made umpteen updates and I needed to log in again. Since then I have remained logged in without interruption. Prolly 28th Feb to date.

So it is (must be?):

1) my tablet – but this site is the only one where I get logged off repeatedly.

2) safari browser on the Apple tablet.

3) this forum software.

4) something else?

I'll now go back to the tablet to log in and see how long It stays logged in. Watch this space…

[Mike PooleParticipant @mikepoole82104]

The conditions to log a user out must be defined in the program that is this website so it should be possible for the support team to explain the rules.

Mike

[Neil WyattModerator @neilwyatt]

Posted by Mike Poole on 10/03/2019 23:55:58:

The conditions to log a user out must be defined in the program that is this website so it should be possible for the support team to explain the rules.

Mike

They have. It's been explained before, but again,

1 it uses cookies

2 it's time limited

3 you can only be logged in on one device

4 the server has a finite number of connections, if it runs out an incative user gets logged out to let someone else on.

[Andrew TinsleyParticipant @andrewtinsley63637]

Because I read the site, maybe several times a day, I never log off (bad security maybe!). I find that at times I need to log on several times a day and then I will go several months without having to log on at all! This has been going on for years. I don't think any of the explanations cover this observation!

The mystery doesn't bother me in the slightest. I simply recount it as evidence for computer savvy people to work out what might be going on.

Andrew.

[WatfordParticipant @watford]

Posted by Andrew Tinsley on 11/03/2019 13:42:15:

Because I read the site, maybe several times a day, I never log off (bad security maybe!). I find that at times I need to log on several times a day and then I will go several months without having to log on at all! This has been going on for years. I don't think any of the explanations cover this observation!

Andrew.

My experience exactly.

Mike

[Harry WilkesParticipant @harrywilkes58467]

Funny thing I have recently re-formatted my hard drive and installed a clean copy of windows 10, since doing so the two problems I had with this formum namely spell checker (sometimes) and the cursor not dropping down after the 'enter' key was pressed have both gone away

H

[not done it yetParticipant @notdoneityet]

Again, logged out befofore 14:45h. I’ll go back to replying on the laptop.

[martin perman 1Participant @martinperman1]

Posted by Neil Wyatt on 11/03/2019 13:21:29:

Posted by Mike Poole on 10/03/2019 23:55:58:

The conditions to log a user out must be defined in the program that is this website so it should be possible for the support team to explain the rules.

Mike

They have. It's been explained before, but again,

1 it uses cookies

2 it's time limited

3 you can only be logged in on one device

4 the server has a finite number of connections, if it runs out an incative user gets logged out to let someone else on.

Neil,

As said before by me I'm logged on permanently, at night I turn my computer off and the next day I turn the laptop on again and I'm still logged in so certainly not time limited. The only time I have to log back in is when I clear my history which also clears my log ins.

Martin P

[Mike PooleParticipant @mikepoole82104]

Posted by Neil Wyatt on 11/03/2019 13:21:29:

Posted by Mike Poole on 10/03/2019 23:55:58:

The conditions to log a user out must be defined in the program that is this website so it should be possible for the support team to explain the rules.

Mike

They have. It's been explained before, but again,

1 it uses cookies

2 it's time limited

3 you can only be logged in on one device

4 the server has a finite number of connections, if it runs out an incative user gets logged out to let someone else on.

That’s pretty logical and as traffic seems to vary during the day and even day to day it can explain the random factor, as long as my fingerprints don’t change logging back in is no problem.

Mike

[Neil WyattModerator @neilwyatt]

Posted by Harry Wilkes on 11/03/2019 14:43:27:

Funny thing I have recently re-formatted my hard drive and installed a clean copy of windows 10, since doing so the two problems I had with this formum namely spell checker (sometimes) and the cursor not dropping down after the 'enter' key was pressed have both gone away

H

That's because we fixed these issues.

I didn't make an announcement as there's always someone who will pipe up 'not here' who then turns out to be using Netscape Navigator under Windows Millennium Edition…

Neil

[Mike PooleParticipant @mikepoole82104]

I credited Apple with the cursor fix as it seemed to coincide with one of their IOS updates, happy it works now anyway.

Mike

Edited By Mike Poole on 12/03/2019 15:06:44

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