Locked out of PayPal

[Michael GilliganParticipant @michaelgilligan61133]

Posted by SillyOldDuffer on 31/08/2016 20:46:06:

Posted by Michael Gilligan on 31/08/2016 19:33:28:

Posted by Russell Eberhardt on 31/08/2016 13:57:12:

… The excuse given by their telephone help line was that it is because the UK is no longer part of the EU!

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It would be interesting to see if they're prepared to put that in writing … Given that it is simply not true.

MichaelG.

Although we haven't left the EU yet the intent to do so has been clearly stated.

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… But until we have left, we are still a member; and whoever mis-informed Russell was quite clearly out-of-order.

The truth is more evident in the link that I posted later.

MichaelG.

[AjohnwParticipant @ajohnw51620]

Posted by Michael Gilligan on 31/08/2016 21:23:23:

Posted by SillyOldDuffer on 31/08/2016 20:46:06:

Posted by Michael Gilligan on 31/08/2016 19:33:28:

Posted by Russell Eberhardt on 31/08/2016 13:57:12:

… The excuse given by their telephone help line was that it is because the UK is no longer part of the EU!

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It would be interesting to see if they're prepared to put that in writing … Given that it is simply not true.

MichaelG.

Although we haven't left the EU yet the intent to do so has been clearly stated.

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… But until we have left, we are still a member; and whoever mis-informed Russell was quite clearly out-of-order.

The truth is more evident in the link that I posted later.

MichaelG.

Well Michael being in the EU didn't stop our banks from not doing what the rest of the European banks did. Why should the subject under discussion not have the same aspects ? Dave has it correct – we are going to be doing it. More firmly than it initially looked actually. One party looks to be seeing it as a vote winner going on their current utterances – at least the ones we hear on the telly.

John

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[Michael GilliganParticipant @michaelgilligan61133]

Posted by Ajohnw on 31/08/2016 23:02:02:

Well Michael … < etc. >

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John,

Feel free to get on your 'soapbox' if you must; but please don't involve me.

I pointed-out one simple fact [which 'gives the lie' to what Russell was told]:

The UK is currently a member of the EU, and will remain a member until the instant it leaves.

… Beyond that, I really have no interest in the 'debate'.

MichaelG.

[AjohnwParticipant @ajohnw51620]

Posted by Michael Gilligan on 01/09/2016 08:44:59:

Posted by Ajohnw on 31/08/2016 23:02:02:

Well Michael … < etc. >

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John,

Feel free to get on your 'soapbox' if you must; but please don't involve me.

I pointed-out one simple fact [which 'gives the lie' to what Russell was told]:

The UK is currently a member of the EU, and will remain a member until the instant it leaves.

… Beyond that, I really have no interest in the 'debate'.

MichaelG.

Ok stick to facts. Fine by me. It is a fact but the connotations of the powers that be even publicly thinking about leaving the EU will have an effect on reality just as actually intending to do that has. That's life.

John

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[Grizzly bearParticipant @grizzlybear]

The six digit number materialised tonight, Freephone called and got it sorted.

Apparently someone in the USA tried to log into my account.

Thanks for all the suggestions.

Bear..

[SillyOldDufferModerator @sillyoldduffer]

Posted by Michael Gilligan on 31/08/2016 21:23:23:

Posted by SillyOldDuffer on 31/08/2016 20:46:06:

Posted by Michael Gilligan on 31/08/2016 19:33:28:

Posted by Russell Eberhardt on 31/08/2016 13:57:12:

… The excuse given by their telephone help line was that it is because the UK is no longer part of the EU!

.

It would be interesting to see if they're prepared to put that in writing … Given that it is simply not true.

MichaelG.

Although we haven't left the EU yet the intent to do so has been clearly stated.

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… But until we have left, we are still a member; and whoever mis-informed Russell was quite clearly out-of-order.

The truth is more evident in the link that I posted later.

MichaelG.

As we don't know exactly what was said to Russell or what Paypal's motives are the truth remains elusive.

I take your point about anti-fraud precautions and can confirm that a friend who lives abroad has been told that is exactly why his UK card was frozen – nothing to do with Paypal and/or Brexit, just tightening up.

However, in the US PayPal Holdings have said that Brexit will have some effect on its regulatory environment, so my suggestion wasn't pure speculation.

If Russell's change had been due to an anti-fraud precaution that's probably exactly what Paypal would have told him. Why shouldn't they? Saying it was something to do with the EU when it wasn't seems an unlikely fib for a Call Centre to invent.

My point however was that, good and bad, the Brexit snowball is already rolling. Assuming that nothing will change because we are still formally in the EU feels a bit like telling the wife you want a divorce and then expecting normal domestic services until a Court has confirmed you are single again.

On the whole I worry about the risks and cost of achieving Brexit. Perhaps I'm wrong. There's been some good news this week. British industry has done unexpectedly well since the referendum result. Long may it last!

Apologies to Russell for veering off his original question.

Dave

[Michael GilliganParticipant @michaelgilligan61133]

Posted by SillyOldDuffer on 02/09/2016 22:45:54:

As we don't know exactly what was said to Russell or what Paypal's motives are the truth remains elusive.

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You're right, of course, Dave … and I admit that I happily took Russell's statement to be true. [I have no reason to doubt the integrity of Russell's reporting of the conversation].

That said: Having made my point, that the UK is still currently a member of the EU, I really have nothing further to say on the matter.

MichaelG.

[AjohnwParticipant @ajohnw51620]

This is where paypal is. At least as far as we are concerned. They have been there for a long long time too.

Copyright © 1999-2016 PayPal. All rights reserved.

PayPal (Europe) S.à r.l. et Cie, S.C.A.
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They are a useful company. I just bought something off a company I have never used before. They tell me that I have 180 days to register a dispute concerning the order. Some time ago, similar situation, goods didn't arrive. I allowed 2 months, sent several emails and no reply. Got in touch with paypal and they refunded. Also had a similar problem with some specific fluorescent light tubes. Got no were for months and on contacting paypal the goods arrived a couple of days later. In that case the tubes were so cheap they must have made a mistake on their web ordering system.

John

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