Issue Reading New Digital Viewer

[HOWARDTParticipant @howardt]

Just read through this thread and thought I would give the latest issue a try, 4605 ME. On my Mac desktop digital view is through a HTML 5 Reader, all works magnifies, no problems. Print a full page, right hand menu to select page to print, scale print down to print onto A4 single sheet, 75% to get it within the paper border on a laser printer, all ok. All reads OK on my iPad and iPhone, Windows 7 laptop sits in its bag unloved.

[Fowlers FuryParticipant @fowlersfury]

With Pocketmags I never discovered how to "print" more than 2 pages at once (used Print to pdf), could've been my set up but seemed a restriction of Pocketmags. To capture and collate a complete article was an irritating & time consuming process with Acrobat. Quicker alternative was to use Windows Snipping Tool, save as jpg, then sharpen if needed with (free) IrfanView. The image quality not as good as Print to pdf but certainly OK & much quicker process. Example of image below – much reduced.for posting here:-

With Windows 10, pressing Ctrl and + together will magnify the screen for a particular drawing and another "Snip" can capture it .
No doubt all that's familiar to everyone, but my last sub to MEW expired end 2018 so haven't experienced latest reported problems.

[SteambuffParticipant @steambuff]

I still can't print when viewing the latest ME issue in the Archive (NOT Pocketmags)…… I do not see any Print option. (or side Menu's)

I have tried in IE and Firefox in Windows 7 …. In Safari on my MacBook

This is what I see

Where do I go from here!!!

Dave

Edited By Steambuff on 30/01/2019 18:32:04

[SamsarandaParticipant @samsaranda]

On my Mac desktop computer I use Firefox as I find it much better than the apple programmes, could be worth you trying that, no expense involved as you can download the Firefox for free.

Dave W

[SteambuffParticipant @steambuff]

I have just downloaded Firefox onto my MacBook … I get exactly the same screen as above.(Which was Firefox under Win 7)

Dave

[JasonBModerator @jasonb]

Have you got the snipping tool in W7, it's under Windows accessories. A bit long winded but as FF says above it may be a way forward until Neil comes back with an answer.

[SteambuffParticipant @steambuff]

Jason,

Yes I do but the quality of the image is so poor, it is unreadable … take a look at my image above, that was captured with the snipping tool.

If I zoom in to get a readable image, I only get about 50-66% of the page.

Dave

[Neil WyattModerator @neilwyatt]

Posted by Steambuff on 30/01/2019 14:02:31:

Hi,

Neil Said – "Bear in mind this is only the archive viewer, digital subscription and single issues are still viewed via pocketmags." Not totally true ….. Pocketmags is not supported on the Mac or Windows 7

Hi Dave,

Pocketmags has always been supported on Mac.

Neil

[Neil WyattModerator @neilwyatt]

Jason,

If you click on a tab and press control then drag it sideways you get a second copy of the tab.

Now drag the tab to the right side of the screen, it will fill half the screen and if you click the preview of the browser it will fill the other half. You get this:

[Neil WyattModerator @neilwyatt]

Posted by Steambuff on 30/01/2019 14:59:13:

Hi,

I am using a MacBook (A Laptop) …. Not an iPad running IOS! They are totally different beasts.

Pocketmags works on my iPhone, but I find it too small to read!

Dave

On PCs and Macbooks you can access your issues through the Pocketmags website.

Neil

[Neil WyattModerator @neilwyatt]

Looks likely a print button will be added soon.

Neil

[SteambuffParticipant @steambuff]

Posted by Neil Wyatt on 30/01/2019 21:57:04:

Posted by Steambuff on 30/01/2019 14:59:13:

Hi,

I am using a MacBook (A Laptop) …. Not an iPad running IOS! They are totally different beasts.

Pocketmags works on my iPhone, but I find it too small to read!

Dave

On PCs and Macbooks you can access your issues through the Pocketmags website.

Neil

That maybe true, but you will only be able to access issues that were published during your subscription periods.

So for example if you rolled the new viewer out to all the old issues, I would not be able to view for example issue 20 of MEW in Pocketmags as I was not a subscriber then … but I can using the Archive on the ME/MEW web site.

I will keep quiet now, till they implement the Print Function. (Thanks for chasing that up)

Dave

[Fowlers FuryParticipant @fowlersfury]

Dave wrote "Yes I do but the quality of the image is so poor, it is unreadable … take a look at my image above, that was captured with the snipping tool."
Agreed, it's poor. But what screen resolution were you using with Win7 ?
Will your graphics (card) allow you to increase it from what you currently ?
My own desktop screen is 1920 x 1080 (default) and that produced the 'snip' shown above.
I can't remember whether Win 7 allowes the Ctrl and + to zoom in on a screen but if it does, try it on that 'snip' of mine above ~ it should show it's quite readable at that 1920 x 1080 resolution.

[SteambuffParticipant @steambuff]

My screen is 1680 x 1050 (That is the max)

[Peter SansomParticipant @petersansom44767]

I use Pocket Mags in Chrome on Linux to print to PDF, there is a 2 page limit, but have found that they are best printed singly. If both are printed with no margins then you end you with an extra blank page, usually the last, but not always, and sometimes the pages are swapped.

Simpler is to print to pdf single pages, each is 2 pages, extra balk due to margin settings. You can either select just to print page 1, used to do that but have now script that removes the 2nd page using a pdftk script.

Ghostscipt is ten used to join the pages in a single pdf file, half the size of doing the same with Adobe Acrobat.

This is now a single bash shell script of about 15 lines that takes about a minute to run. Same basic method works on the Model Engineer flash version, but in my experience the best result is Win10 using Chrome. A similar bash script can then be used in cygwin under Windows.

[JasonBModerator @jasonb]

Posted by Neil Wyatt on 30/01/2019 21:53:57:

Jason,

If you click on a tab and press control then drag it sideways you get a second copy of the tab.

Thank's Neil, I thought you had found another way as I already had Alibre and the mag viewer up on the screen together it would have been too tight to get 3 windows up!

[MeunierParticipant @meunier]

Posted by Fowlers Fury on 30/01/2019 22:26:15:

snip…
I can't remember whether Win 7 allowes the Ctrl and + to zoom in on a screen but if it does, try it on that 'snip' of mine above ~ it should show it's quite readable at that 1920 x 1080 resolution….snip

Win 7 here FF, hold down Control and + or use scroll wheel on mouse works to increase/decrease font.
DaveD

[Paul LousickParticipant @paullousick59116]

Does anyonehave a problem viewing the digital copies of Model Engineer.

It appears that the viewer has been replaced.

With the magazine image set at 100% (default) it only fills 3/4 of my screen. I can manually enlarge it to fill my screen but it reverts back to 100% every time I turn a page. Very annoying

The older version had an option to print a page. How do you save a page now?

Paul.

Edited By JasonB on 06/02/2019 08:15:19

[Paul LousickParticipant @paullousick59116]

Thanks Jason,

I did a quick search but did not find these previous posts. Looks like I am not the only one with problems. Hopefully they will be resolves soon,

Paul

[Chris GillParticipant @chrisgill22114]

Sorry to say, I also find this new viewer unusable. As with others, the whole point of my digital subscription was to be able to use the archive. I often find I have to print to PDF so that I can enlarge some of the diagrams. I hope someone has a serious re-think.

Chris

[Neil WyattModerator @neilwyatt]

I understand printing is being progressed.

neil

[Gray62Participant @gray62]

There's a lot more than print that needs working on.

Why oh why has this been thrust upon us without any thought for functionality or usability.

For instance, in the old viewer, once you had zoomed in to a readable size, you could turn pages and continue reading, the new viewer instantly returns to its default zoom level (100%) each time you turn a page, so you then have to zoom in again.

Another thing, clicking the full screen view does not do exactly that, it turns off browser toolbars etc but the magazine image remains the same size AND, if you then try to use zoom and move around the page, you are only viewing a window on the page, so the rest of the page disappears under the grey background.

So typical of a web R&D dept doing very little R and absolutely no D!

These changes should not be released until they have been fully developed and tested 'in house' to ensure all functionality of what is being replaced is fully replicated (or improved) in the replacement.

Why don't they just do what most of the other magazines I read online do and publish these as a PDF. You still have to be a subscriber to access them so what's the problem?

Gray

[Fowlers FuryParticipant @fowlersfury]

"Why don't they just do what most of the other magazines I read online do and publish these as a PDF. You still have to be a subscriber to access them so what's the problem?"

Possibly because it is considered too easy to redistribute pdf versions e.g.within M.E.Socs.?
Why – I assumed – it was made so much effort (time consuming) to produce a personal reference pdf copy of an issue.

But publishing staff, contributors etc are undeniably entitled to remuneration for all their work.
Publishing and authoring are not very rewarding activities these days as copyright laws are rarely enforced. Numerous websites offer illicit copies of magazines and books within a short time of their publication, denying income to those producing them ~ as well as HMRC – which amongst other taxes, get VAT from e-books etc.

Sorry ~ a digression from the original thread………..

[Graham StoppaniParticipant @grahamstoppani46499]

Can someone say what viewer is currently operating for the archived magazines? I am seeing Adobe Flashplayer for either MS Explorer running on Windows 10 or Firefox running on Windows 7.

regards

Graham

[JasonBModerator @jasonb]

The latest two issues of ME have a new non Flash viewer and I expect the next and subsequent MEWs to use the same new viewer

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